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In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?

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TheClaws · 04/09/2017 08:30

....aand we're expecting a dirty, unfair fight.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3015872-Trump-yes-we-have-no-Steve-Bannon

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BiglyBadgers · 07/09/2017 15:00

The spat last year about Facebook's human editors (subsequently ditched)

And then, as I mentioned up thread, they recruited 3000 moderators again in May this year after recognising they couldn't get do it all with AI. While they still use a lot of AI and are pushing this it is incorrect to say they have removed all their human moderators.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/04/facebook-content-moderators-ptsd-psychological-dangers

Also this is interesting on the subject
mashable.com/2017/05/22/facebook-ai-content-moderation-community-standards/

PerkingFaintly · 07/09/2017 15:02

Thanks, OYBBK. I saw your excellent work on that. Keep being about to post but... don't know what to say.Sad

cozietoesie · 07/09/2017 15:02

Good, OYBBK.

PerkingFaintly · 07/09/2017 15:11

Indeed. Although the moderators aren't doing quite the same job as the news curators.

The curators were choosing/approving stories to promote as stories. The moderators are removing images of violence and sexual assault, among other things.

There might be overlap, of course. And ultimately they're both deciding what content gets hosted or promoted on FB.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/09/2017 15:13

I've got a meeting this afternoon but later I'll post a full update.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/09/2017 15:16

Thanks oybbk, your insights are much appreciated.

And bleurgh to the McDicken Sandwich

badbadhusky · 07/09/2017 15:32

Eewwwww! Envy

lionheart · 07/09/2017 15:51

Eeew indeed. Hold the mayo?

lionheart · 07/09/2017 15:55

I seem to remember a conversation about how anti-Trumpers were corrupting their young.

nymag.com/selectall/2017/09/hero-adolescent-curses-out-infowars-host.html?utm_campaign=nym&utm_source=tw&utm_medium=s1

AcrossthePond55 · 07/09/2017 16:51

Read the last line of my post at 13:46:09, badbadhusky I'm not repeating it.

Oh, dear! That's put me off my feed!

orlantina · 07/09/2017 17:05

When people have an agenda and are constantly posting threads etc about that agenda, it can be very difficult to fact check / debate / offer a counter point when there is so much propaganda being pushed.

People hear one narrative. Some of it may be true. Some may be fake. But if you only hear the same narrative pushed by many people in many areas, that's going to influence your views.

(And the irony isn't lost on me on this thread)

We aren't in Kansas anymore.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/09/2017 17:09

Am slightly hesitant to post this after your post orlantina but

Who's ready for the next instalment of trump-russia! I present to you the FOURTH version of don jrs story about meeting with said Russians

www.rawstory.com/2017/09/trump-jr-tells-senate-he-wanted-russian-dirt-on-hillary-to-judge-if-she-was-fit-to-be-president/amp/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/09/2017 17:11

Also Shock

Pelosi: Trump says that he would sign the DREAM Act if it passed

thehill.com/homenews/house/349634-pelosi-trump-says-that-he-would-sign-the-dream-act-if-it-passed?amp

(Yes he flip flops more than a fish out of water but still!)

BiglyBadgers · 07/09/2017 17:19

Is he trying to make the DREAM act his thing rather than Obama's? Does he want to claim credit for saving it? Confused Hmm

lionheart · 07/09/2017 17:19

That statement is a classic.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/09/2017 17:32

Slightly misleading headline but also Shock

shareblue.com/trump-surrenders-his-twitter-account-to-nancy-pelosi/

Seemingly out of nowhere, Trump tweeted, “For all of those (DACA) that are concerned about your status during the 6 month period, you have nothing to worry about – No action!”

The tweet, sent out to Trump’s 37.8 million followers and covered by every media outlet, was the brainchild of the House minority leader. According to Capitol Hill reporters, Pelosi spoke to Trump and “asked him” to send out the tweet in order to reassure DREAMers.

And he did just as she asked.

As Associated Press congressional reporter Erica Werner noted, the surrender of Trump’s account to Democrats is shocking and unusual.

“This is getting crazy,” she said. “McConnell repeatedly asks Trump to stop tweeting, Pelosi gets a tweet she wants.”

cozietoesie · 07/09/2017 17:46

All she has to do is tell him how much more presidential - and better looking - he is than You Know Who. He's gasping for that.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/09/2017 17:50

Donald Trump Jr. to Meet With Senate Russia Investigators

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-senate-investigators-russia.html?smid=fb-share&referer=m.facebook.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-senate-investigators-russia.html?smid=fb-share&referer=m.facebook.com/

Democrats, led by Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, the committee’s top-ranking Democrat, said on Wednesday that Mr. Trump had also agreed to testify at a public hearing before the committee and that he would probably be subpoenaed if he did not follow through on that agreement. Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the panel’s chairman, declined to discuss the committee’s dealings with Mr. Trump. Lawyers for Mr. Trump could not be reached for comment.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/09/2017 17:53

Think you hit the nail on the head there cozie

Josh Dawsey @jdawsey1
Trump seemed happy talking to Pelosi and Schumer and said they'd all gotten good news coverage, particularly on TV.

www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/trump-calls-nancy-pelosi-chuck-schumer-news-coverage-242441

Lweji · 07/09/2017 18:31

Is he trying to make the DREAM act his thing rather than Obama's? Does he want to claim credit for saving it?

Maybe that was the Democrats' angle. I can't see Obama worried about it.
Although History will still depict Trump as a petulant child (see transactional analysis).

cozietoesie · 07/09/2017 18:45

The Democrats look to be playing him, Bigly. What the GOP Congressional Leadership think is anyone's guess.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 07/09/2017 19:07

Not keeping up this week! Work has got in the way Grin
Anyway - that wall won't build itself...

m.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2017/09/07/trump-has-now-twice-given-up-on-his-wall/?c=0&s=trending#422ee80c1362

PerkingFaintly · 07/09/2017 19:20

Donald Jr “To the extent they had information concerning the fitness, character or qualifications of a presidential candidate, I believed that I should at least hear them out”

O.M.G.

That line is going to come back to bite him on the arse.

cozietoesie · 07/09/2017 19:32

I suppose that some day he'll learn to keep it zipped.

lionheart · 07/09/2017 19:38

Trump at Press conference now on CNN.

Babbling as usual.