To not understand why the nurse was arrested?

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Why would you arrest someone for refusing to take blood from someone unconscious?

Was the policeman on glue?!

Even if say it was actually policy, surely you just ask for a superior and medics are allowed to refuse to perform any procedure personally?

Have to say I am glad she wasn't black!

My first thought was exactly that. Not sure she would have lived to fight this had she been black

Wonder if there is actual footage of the chase. Really could help piece things together

Supposedly if the truck driver (victim who the suspect the police were chasing crashed into) provides a positive substance test, then the responsibility for the suspects death is immediately shifted to the truck driver and the police don't face a lengthy investigation into their handling of the situation and chase.

Would be awfully convenient wouldn't it...

Are lorries fitted with the same things as they are here? Those things that record the length of time driving speed breaks taken etc

Another very good reason why I would never go to the USA. God knows what training their police get but there are far too many examples of them losing control and acting in a totally OTT and extreme way when dealing with some people and horrendously that sometimes includes shooting them dead.

Scarily convenient... they have footage of the crash. They have footage of the arrest. What's the bet the footage of the chase is mysteriously missing from dash cam cameras?

She was arrested because the police officer wasn't getting his own way and it pissed him off. He's not used to people saying no to him.

I don't understand what the issue was. It was like he just turned on her.

I have to say in its current state there is not a chance in hell I would travel to America. Obviously I know it is a country filled with lovely people too but Jesus it is a fucked up place these days.

Does anyone else recall last year's incident in which a care worker was shot while trying to calm an autistic patient?
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/unarmed-care-worker-charles-kinsey-shot-by-us-police-while-calming-autistic-patient-miami-gun-latest-a7148216.html

I think this depends on whether the nurse was right that she couldn't take blood from the unconscious patient in the circumstances. There may, for instance, be a provision in the state's laws for blood samples from drivers in the case of traffic accidents. I know in the UK of a nurse back in the 90s arrested for obstruction of justice (and charged and convicted IIRC) for refusing to wake the on call ER doctor when police required his attention for a drink driver.

If the nurse was wrong about her ability to legally refuse then she was obstructing justice. Don't think an arrest is the best way to handle it though, if you know who the nurse is you can go back and charge her after her shift, there is just no need to disrupt the care of the sick in that way. Also, I haven't watched the video so I can't comment on that aspect.

@BoomBoomsCousin patient didn't cause accident. He was crashed into by a speeding suspect that police were chasing.

boom if you watch the video you will see they had no right to the blood sample. She was following the law and hospital policy. Her boss was on the phone and told the police officer that. He lost his temper and flipped. She should have been protected by hospital security.

Have just now managed to load the article - and I take back what I said above. That seems pretty clearly an unlawful arrest.

What is so scary about these kinds of incidents is that these guys are so sure of their ability to do these things and get away with them that they are happy to do it in. Broad daylight, with loads of witness and on camera! I mean what the hell are they being told in training and work that makes them so comfortable doing it? That's what is worrying.

She wasn't arrested for refusing to take blood - she was arrested for refusing to allow a police officer to take blood. Big difference. The police officer was out if order and hopefully he will get his comeuppance, but this is USA and they seem to be above the law especially when it comes to shooting blacks - she may have got of lightly

I mean theyre clearly being given the message for their superiors that this is what they can do.

I bump up against police officers here in Canada and the local cops are very different to the RCMP. In the UK I feel like at least the training is fairly standard. But here, and in the US, a lot seems to rest on the culture and training locally.

Police here get involved in tenancy disputes that are none of their business. Frequently on the side of the landlord, the power, unsurprisingly. They tend not to shoot people very much. Although there are a lot of historical and current abuses of First Nations people.

I think this depends on whether the nurse was right that she couldn't take blood from the unconscious patient in the circumstances

She was right. Her supervisor on the phone confirmed she was right. Maybe read the article or watch the video before commenting? It will make your contributions so much more useful in future

@PerspicaciaTick that was awful! It was so obviously not a weapon

I've just seen the footage, the police officer had a tantrum because he wasn't getting his own way, total abuse of power! Also shocking to read that he still has a job and is not facing disciplinary action (I think that will change now that this has gone viral, fingers crossed!) but all of the police department have been retrained which is something at least.

It really isn't funny any more.

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I honestly cannot believe that eitger. Look at the guy arms out like that ckearky unarmed and even when shot desperately trying to make sure the person he was with wasn't freaked out and trying to make it clear he was unarmed.

There are no words to describe how unnecessary the whole thing was.