To ask how long it will take to die if we do get nuked

[MagicalRealist]

Just this really. How quick? I know the warning, if there is one, will only be a few minutes so nowhere near enough time to get to school and be with DC. But when the bombs hit, is it just a flash of light and then oblivion? Or a longer scarier process? Obviously I hope none of this will actually happen.

A nuclear blast would play havoc with my asthma. Wonder if I can stock up on inhalers? yes, I know asthma would be the least of my worries

It's fine hmc! Had the same thoughts myself. Might try and get hold of some codeine linctus.

I understand this is a worrying time for a lot of people.

However I don't think descriptions of how posters would kill their children, themselves and how to obtain medications to do so are a great idea.

I know nuclear war is a terrifying thought but it's very very unlikely. Whereas the likelyhood of this being read by people with mental health problems and causing great distress, I would imagine is much higher.
Maybe some sort of warning on the title?

I have seen Threads Buggerit it's a terrifying film I watched it in the 80 ,s .

China will not nuke the US or the UK. The US will not nuke anyone.

The only country threatening to nuke is NK and as I said, they can be taken out very quickly if needs be.

Grouchy have you read/seen On the Beach?

I think the thread title is fairly explicit Whatslovegottodo.

Here's some cheery information C&P from one of the nuke map sites, just describing the parameters of the results it gives. These categories are like concentric rings, going from the smallest in the middle outwards:

Fireball radius:
Maximum size of the nuclear fireball; relevance to lived effects depends on height of detonation. If it touches the ground, the amount of radioactive fallout is significantly increased.

Air blast radius (20 psi):
At 20 psi overpressure, heavily built concrete buildings are severely damaged or demolished; fatalities approach 100%.

Air blast radius (5 psi):
At 5 psi overpressure, most residential buildings collapse, injuries are universal, fatalities are widespread.

Radiation radius (500 rem):
500 rem radiation dose; without medical treatment, there can be expected between 50% and 90% mortality from acute effects alone. Dying takes between several hours and several weeks.

Thermal radiation radius (3rd degree burns):
Third degree burns extend throughout the layers of skin, and are often painless because they destroy the pain nerves. They can cause severe scarring or disablement, and can require amputation. 100% probability for 3rd degree burns at this yield is 8.4 cal/cm2.

The media should be ashamed! They are stoking up trouble by going on and on about it.
They always want us to be scared about something. It makes money!

Western side of north America here. My time zone is PACIFIC TIME so if that nutjob presses the button I'll let you know what it's like before my fingers melt (if possible).

Not being funny, but every time anyone describes anti-social behaviour of a much more minor kind than nuking a country on Mumsnet (a neighbour letting washing get darked on, for instance), quarter of the posters suggest calling the police and another quarter suggest taking the law into your own hands.

Where is this fight when it comes to actual politics? No-one has even suggested calling the police or ringing your MP yet. Bah. I call humbug on this thread.

Im not in a big risk area for the initial blasts.

however I have a child with a long term illness and a need for daily medication. THATS going to be a problem, and actually that terrifies me more than anything else

Nobody watch Threads!

Seriously don't. That film has haunted me since I saw it in the 80's in my teens.

I do find it horrific how the subject of nuclear war is back on the agenda though, it was a prevailing fear I had in the 80's, but went away completely in the 90's. How has it reared it's ugly head again

Rugger No, but do know the premise.

so many things to worry yourself sick about, and so little time

I'm Exeter probably not a primary target in itself, so we're about an hour from Plymouth and its naval base and Hinkley Point nuclear power station. I'm guessing being in the middle of the two we'd probably have a slow death.

Civilian targets are banned under the "rules of war" so you need to be close to a military target

I'm not thinking NK will give a shit about the rules of war. Kim Jong-un is not known for his moderation (remember he had his uncle blown apart by mortars at close range, and his dynasty has presided over the starvation deaths of millions of his own people). There seems to be some view that if he knows he's going to lose power, he'll do his damnest to make sure that everyone else goes down with him.

Personally I think that his own nuclear capability is relatively small - S Korea, Japan. But the big dangers are China getting involved and hopefully I'm speaking from fear but I suspect that NK has a lot of attacks planned to take down the Internet. Previous attacks have been test runs and caused damage. Take down our electricity and infrastructure networks and there's a huge problem because people will start to get on the move as soon as food runs out. Add the possibility of chemical and biological warfare and it's not looking pleasant. I assume that chemical warfare would be fairly limited (don't know much about it) but bio could be different as it is contagious.

I imagine that you only need to kill a relatively small percentage of the population to create disastrous knock on effects through terror or food shortages leading to people migrating.

I'd love to know if there are any disaster planners on mumsnet and what they think.

This is cheery

Lol, was just thinking the exact same thing on opening the thread!

I live by the AWE (atomic weapons not sure what E stands for). So a prime target.

Basically it'll be over quickly.

Live ten miles away from Menwith Hill, the American listening post, so presume we'd just go up in vapour at the first strike. But then, I remember living through the 1970s as a teenager thinking the same thing. Either that or the Yorkshire Ripper would get us first...

"How has it reared it's ugly head again"

Trump, but not for the obvious reasons.

NK does this sort of thing pretty much every year. It's even fired at Japan before. When this happens, the international community condemn it. And usually it's buried in the foreign affairs pages of the broadsheets and gets 30secs on the BBC.

But now it's getting much more coverage when Trump does exactly what other presidents do and condemns it, presumably because his style is more colourful than recent predecessors and it feeds the narrative of unsuitability. But the threat of retaliation if NK start on US interests (Guam) is the same old message.

The report which suggested that NK's nuclear technology and delivery systems have improved rather more quickly than previous predictions is a new factor, but only in the sense that the day we can't prevent but know is coming, is still coming and it's a medium rather than distant prospect.

We are all going to die!!
If this happens at least we were the generation that died from something exciting!!

Ikeadyounot how do you know nobody on here has contacted their mp or done anything else to protest and register their views? I have actually. And it's made fuck all difference to anything. But that's not what this thread is about.

Oh fgs.

Everyone, go buy yourselves copies of Fallout and get practicing.