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To ask how long it will take to die if we do get nuked

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MagicalRealist · 29/08/2017 14:15

Just this really. How quick? I know the warning, if there is one, will only be a few minutes so nowhere near enough time to get to school and be with DC. But when the bombs hit, is it just a flash of light and then oblivion? Or a longer scarier process? Obviously I hope none of this will actually happen.

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GurgleBoots · 01/09/2017 07:03

Here's the U.K. Version

m.youtube.com/watch?v=rcJCLf-Uv74

Ifailed · 01/09/2017 07:13

There used to be sirens on top of every police station in London in the 80s, don't seem to be there any more. Probably been out-sourced to a company owned by an ex-minister whose realised that the chances of been fined for not meeting the requirements to broadcast prior to a nuclear attack are pretty slim, so they just take the money.

ComputerUserNotTrained · 01/09/2017 08:31

I know you're being lighthearted ifailed, but there are no sirens because there's no need for them anymore.

Only saying this as I wouldn't want anyone to fret. Plus I'm right!

There are sirens in a few places I believe, which act as flood warnings.

ikeadyounot · 01/09/2017 09:00

We occasionally hear the testing of an air raid siren near us - I guess some of those are still operating?

When the missile flew over Japan, all the telephones went with alerts. I guess they might have something like that in reserve? There must be people whose job it is to plan for the unthinkable, even though (as computeruser says) it's very unlikely to happen.

BeyondLimitsAndWhatever · 01/09/2017 09:38

ikead - Portsmouth?

SideOrderofSprouts · 01/09/2017 09:39

Plymouth tests its air raid siren every Monday in case of nuclear accident at the navy base

ikeadyounot · 01/09/2017 09:53

No, I'm in the north of England! I suspect that loads of urban areas have them, would like to know more about where and why if anyone knows? It's quite a haunting sound, and always reminds me how unimaginably tough WW2 must have been for people.

cafeaulaitpourvous · 01/09/2017 10:00

I hear one regularly but I think it's the local very posh car factory....

BeyondLimitsAndWhatever · 01/09/2017 10:16

I used to hear one walking to high school, I think ours used to be on the civic centre. No idea if it's still there!

BeyondLimitsAndWhatever · 01/09/2017 10:18

I think the one I used to hear was actually the testing of the one on a local chemical plant, but it's not right be where I lived so the sound must travel well!

Humptyfelldown · 01/09/2017 11:34

September 1988. A seemingly ordinary autumn morning. Schools were back (my brother was still there), and I was due to start college, but had a dr's appointment.

We heard the deafening noise of the siren. It was so loud and pervasive, that it was impossible to think. I ran to the TV (the news was on), and turned it as loud as it would go, hoping to drown out the siren, and hear if WWW3 had begun, and we were unawares.

My mum phoned the police, my sister went outside, trying to gather up the kittens, whilst the neighbours were screaming in the garden.

I then ran out the front door. I guess I thought it wasn't real, and outside would be 'normal'. But no. We lived on a major A road, and all the cars had stopped. The car dealership opposite had the staff out looking concerned.

Then it stopped. Everything returned to normal. The police told my mum that the siren had been let off accidentally, and was reported in the papers.

I was limping by the time I got to the Dr, and a later X-ray showed I'd broken my ankle (yes I still walked on it to start with, adrenaline is a huge painkiller).

The point to this - I never behaved in the way I thought I would. I wanted to be with other people, and discovered I wanted to flee. Which was in stark contrast to how I 'thought' I'd behave. The drill was so real that we (those in the vicinity) really thought that was it.

I don't know what my mum thought about my brother. His school was 5 miles away, and she didn't have a car. But the adrenaline I think, got to her to. You are so disctracted that you don't have time to worry as such.

Humptyfelldown · 01/09/2017 11:36

I should add that we don't live near any chemical plants, and are in a land-locked area, so the siren had only ever been used during the war. It was down a nearby road, on a long wooden post, and was metal with a circular middle IIRC. It was finally removed when a new housing estate was built.

ikeadyounot · 01/09/2017 11:44

humpty - oh wow. I've always wondered how people would respond to impending armageddon, and that gives an insight.

When the Euro 2004 football final was on, I was living in a very Greek-dominated area. I also had a big book deadline I had to meet, and I hadn't given myself enough time, so I had been working around the clock for weeks, to the point of being more exhausted than I even knew was possible. I had totally forgotten the news, the football, the existence of a world outside my flat... When the celebrations broke out on the victory, all I could hear was a crowd of people screaming and screaming, and car horns blaring, alarms going of. I honestly thought there was some kind of major catastrophe happening and panicked. I just ran... towards the noise, leaving everything behind! It was pure adrenaline impulse, and probably the very last thing you should actually do in an emergency!

Of course, when I got there and it was actually a huge, impromptu street party, it was both lovely and kind of surreal!! Only someone totally locked up in work like I was could have been cloistered and stupid enough to make a mistake like that, though!

BeyondLimitsAndWhatever · 01/09/2017 11:46

My dad worked in a nuclear plant, and the town nearby definitely still had its sirens - I guess there is a definite potential need then!

QuestionableMouse · 01/09/2017 12:04

I'm fairly sure my town still has sirens too.

If they bombed (in any way) the power plant near me, it would take out a fairly major port (or two, depending), a massive amount of chemical manufacturing and and oil tank farm. And probably all of the towns in range.

BeyondLimitsAndWhatever · 01/09/2017 12:08

Oo, the incident plan for the local chemical plant is online!

chelseahotel · 01/09/2017 12:30

We went to York Cold War Bunker last week. A really fascinating tour of a nuclear bunker, teenage DS was amazed. I would highly recommend if you have DC over about aged 12.

One thing they told us was that there is a map of all the old bunkers, some were only tiny 3 person ones and they were pretty much all closed in 1991 after the fall of the Berlin wall and improved relations with Russia.

BeyondLimitsAndWhatever · 01/09/2017 12:34

Now that is interesting. I assumed there wouldn't be a bunker within miles of me as there's no one too important here on my council estate. So I checked the map, and there's one literally up the road!!

I asked DH if he knew where there was one and he said "oh yeah, just up by the church". And I'm the one who's lived here for thirty years, not him 😂

chelseahotel · 01/09/2017 14:04

The guide told us there was a post every ten miles. I'm not sure they're quite that close together on that map but there is one about 3 miles from us. I showed it to DS who wants to go and find it.
I have visions of a Lost type hatch with someone down there pressing a button every 108 minutes Grin

kazillionaire · 01/09/2017 16:05

Only read the first page as I couldn't handle the negativity! Hope it got better further on ;)

Paddington68 · 01/09/2017 16:12

Darling, is there no wine in your house?

MagicalRealist · 03/09/2017 12:13

For everyone who's patronised and belittled those of us who do fear that there's a genuine possibility of nuclear weapons being used soon, this article was in the telegraph today. They're taking it seriously.

www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/would-really-happen-britain-came-nuclear-attack/

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MagicalRealist · 03/09/2017 12:16

It says that if we get a warning, it would be for a maximum of about ten minutes. It would be via text message and tv and radio - all channels would switch to a message telling us that a missile has been launched.

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MagicalRealist · 03/09/2017 12:17

It's unclear as to what casualty levels would be and how prolonged the period of suffering would be for anyone within the bomb impact radius.

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LurkingHusband · 03/09/2017 12:24

During WW2, loads of hidden bunkers were dug for the resistance to operate from.

They were secretly recruited, and their first task would be to assassinate the person who recruited them ...

The were expected to be able to survive a few weeks until the Nazis rounded them all up.

If anyone thinks that video is far fetched, google Lidice, or Oradour sur Glane .....

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