To be frustrated by the misunderstanding of the honorific 'Ms' ?

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Inspired by another thread.

I've come across many people who believe that 'Ms' is the honorific for a divorced woman, rather than the female equivalent of 'Mr'. People including several employers, managers, supervisors etc, plus friends and family who I'd normally regard as clued up. And many of them women.

I do welcome the introduction of the term 'Mx' as a title to be used when gender is irrelevant [almost always!] but I fear that Mx will go the same way - people will interpret it as a title for someone who is [for example] transgender.

What say you, MN massive?

And, another story, my local MP (who thankfully retired before the last election. Hurrah) refused to use my title - Ms - because apparently he didn't recognise it as a "proper" title. I got him back by refusing to address him as "Sir" because I didn't believe he'd earned that honour.

Unbelievable that someone like that could have been apparently representing me in parliament. Grrrrrr

I use Ms. I used it after my early 20s, for no particular reason, and I have used it when I was married (Hacked the ex-Hub off no end) and now I use it as a single pringle.

I like it. To me it's the female equivalent of Mr. If someone assumed that I was divorced or unmarried at my age I would just assume it was their preconceptions and of no matter to me.

I don't think I've ever been called anything but Ms in the US. They manage this just fine.

It's the default title for women in the US. Also there are few instances in the US where anyone is asked to indicate a title.

I went back to Ms [maiden name] following my divorce.

I suspect that the people who don't know I'm divorced think I'm a radical feminist rather than someone who has fled an abusive marriage.

I don't give a stuff what people think about my name

I think I have best of both worlds I am Dr Abs at work but Mrs Still at dcs school. All banking. Etc is in Dr Abs name, passport is Mrs Still. When ever anyone usually trying to flog me something asks for Mrs Abs I tell them no one by that name lives here they are asking for my mother !
Most of the school mums who aren't married use Ms IME. All female surgeons are Miss or Ms never Mrs.

Bananas, I was thinking of that, people should t assume in 2017.

Also debating buying a snake ring but that's for middle finger.

I've never changed my name and used Ms for such a long time on any document, but not aware of anyone assuming I'm divorced or single. I accept the title of Mrs when it's used by tradesmen etc when they come to the house, it's just petty to call it out in the circumstances

I know it's just a way of saying you are not disclosing your marital status.
Personally I'm proud to be a miss, unmarried with children, and get offended when school for example try and call me Mrs or Ms

I met this really posh woman once and she said Ms was just for lesbians. I'm Miss and proud to be a Miss who isn't sucked in by the concept of marriage and spending money on a wedding. Single for life.

I am a perfectly ordinary common or garden feminist and use Ms. It hardly counts as a radical move at all, does it?

I have never heard the divorce connotation of Ms. I changed my surname on marriage so as not to upset my DH's conservative family (who probably would have thought the marriage was doomed to fail had I not!), but kept the Ms because my marital status is my business, and I don't get my self-worth from random strangers knowing whether I'm married or not.

I'm a Ms, have been since about 15 as a feminist statement. I refuse to be defined by my relationship to man.

Absolutely agree with Echt.
When Ms first came to be I had an argument with some male arsehole in the post office. He 'must know' whether I am married or not because the parcel wouldn't get to me otherwise!!

Come on.
I would argue with MCPs 'why do you need to know if I am married or not?'
We do not define men by their marital status it is a nonsense and ridiculous that we have to define women thus. It smacks of Victorian values.....i.e. You are nothing without a man!!

I've been Ms since I was about 14 years old and care not a whit whether anyone thinks this means I'm divorced (!), a feminist (!), or a lesbian(!). Or even a divorced feminist lesbian.

I use ms and mrs. I've been married and divorced. I don't care what people think about my usage of either term. i don't care if people call me by either. It doesn't matter. I will never use mx though because it sounds wanky imho.

Good plan. I just CBA with all that research! An MSc was hard enough. Would love to be a Dr though.

Dr is in fact often assumed to be male, so not too generic. Just found out my life insurance had been weighted because it assumed I was a man (my first name is very female) because of my title.
I was refunded the premiums, which was welcome - as I suggested it would not be good publicity for it to be known that this large company had a male default for Dr!

Ive noticed on a few online forms lately that there is no miss option, only ms or Mrs

how do you even pronounce Mx???

I really think Mr Mrs and Ms would be redundant if we all just used our names. If it s just to represent a gender identity we could put (m) or (f) afterwards. ( joking)

I feel annoyed every time I fill out a form that we need a title at all! If I buy something online why do they need to know whether I am a man, woman, married or otherwise? And it's mandatory! Wtf does it have to do with anything?

The only options on forms for people who aren't doctors, majors etc should be M/s and M/r or untitled. This covers all forms of 'title' wankery - Miss/Misses/Ms/Mister/Master and gives an option for sensible people who want to drop the whole title shit altogether.

I'm not a radical feminist lesbian... I'm divorced. Surely by saying this gives me the justification to correct people. I'm not married, not a spinster... I am a working mum???? Does it matter to anyone but yourself. Call yourself what you like. BTW does it really matter if you are a radical lesbian feminist?