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Really fucked off with Euro exchange rate

478 replies

GrumpyOldBag · 27/08/2017 15:39

We have been going on holiday self-catering to the same place in Europe for over 10 years.

This year everything feels prohibitively expensive - to the point where it is really inhibiting what we can choose to do.

We are here for 2 weeks and it's really hard as family of 4 (with 2 teenagers) to spend less than £100/euros a day on activities/eating out.

Not in a beach resort type place, so taking a picnic to the beach for the day isn't an option - nearly everything there is to do here costs money. 3 euros for a coffee, 3 for an ice-cream - it all quickly adds up. Even the 'cheap' food in the supermarket is expensive. Practically at parity with £.

Bloody Brexit!

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orlantina · 27/08/2017 20:39

live in the south...i mainly stay in the south

Come up North for some fish and chips Grin A bargain..

But then again, wages are lower up North..

MargaretTwatyer · 27/08/2017 20:42

It's interesting isn't it? Southerners who largely voted to stay are worried about their holidays. Northerners are worried about industry and wages. And remainers wonder why they didn't convince...

orlantina · 27/08/2017 20:44

Southerners who largely voted to stay are worried about their holidays. Northerners are worried about industry and wages

I'm both.

I can see the positive effects but then again, I love Europe.

My city is a Northern city that strongly voted Remain.

LittleLionMansMummy · 27/08/2017 20:48

Agreed Margaret that it's the very people who voted for Brexit who will be most badly affected. Is that what you mean?

I'm a Midlander (which I suppose is south if you live in Sunderland) and yes, it's pissed me off that my holiday has cost more. It doesn't stop me having sympathy for those who are more badly affected by Brexit, of whom I admit there are hundreds of thousands.

QueenofLouisiana · 27/08/2017 20:49

We spent about £500 more this year than last (in France for 4 weeks). It's a very cheap end of the month here- no Bank Holiday treats for us!

BrexitBritain · 27/08/2017 20:55

Margaret - I know. I can't wait to see all those factories open now that we leave the single market! Manufacturing will boom again, what with all the jam we'll export, picked by our teenagers. The opportunities in exporting to New Zealand and Canada! Who cares if they're on the other side of the world!

PickingOakum · 27/08/2017 20:57

Margaret This is what pisses me off, because it looks like Macron might just get it. Yet we are worse affected by this (especially our poor) and they never considered offering us similar. (The break was not comparable to what Macron wants). If the EU had come back and said 'Look, we know we're not so good for the less well off in your country, so we have solutions which can help' and offered similar I may well have voted remain. But they didn't. Because they didn't even want us to stay.

The question here, though, is did any British representative ever approach the EU in a reasonable way and demand viable reform that conformed to original EU founding principles? I am not so sure anyone ever did.

It's like the whole business of Cameron approaching the EU over benefits for recent EU migrants to Britain. Was the problem actually EU directives or the means-tested, non-actuarial nature of the British benefit system (which is unique in Europe)? Did anyone ever make the case that what was happening in Britain contravened the principle of EU citizens not being a burden on a host country's welfare system? I never read any evidence someone made that case to the EU at all or was even honest about it to the public.

In fact, I have always been left with impression that the British governing class really did not give a damn about how the EU's directives collided with British systems to the detriment of certain sections of British citizenry.

As regards the currency, well, it has always seemed a little strange to me that hardly anyone points out the euro is actually a neo-Deutschmark that has been artificially kept low by the inclusion of Club Med countries into the EMU. It's classic Thatcher-era monetarism, where unemployment in one part of the economic entity is the price to be paid for price stability in another, writ large over an entire continent.

Britain was kept out of this purely by virtue of retaining sterling, which, I've got to say, is the best thing Gordon Brown ever did for Britain (despite the fact he screwed up almost everything else) and for this alone, I'd make the argument that guy deserves a statue on a plinth somewhere. Grin

The fact is that the euro is just too strong for Spain, Italy and Greece (which is what previous posters are actually experiencing when they complain about high prices for food and drink on holidays). And, of course, it is ... because the EMU includes Germany: a large and strong industrial economy, the fourth largest exporting nation in the world behind the US, China, and South Korea, with a governing class that has an obsession with price stability and fear of inflation running through their bone marrow.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 27/08/2017 21:02

Southerners who largely voted to stay are worried about their holidays. Northerners are worried about industry and wages

Oh do stop talking bollocks margaret

I think the vast majority of what you are saying has been interesting and on point

And then you come up with utter rubbish

Is someone else using your username?

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 27/08/2017 21:03

orlantina

I know my entire family is originally from the north Grin

Liverpool

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 27/08/2017 21:08

Yes they can complain about it if they want. I've been a little surprised while on holiday and had the odd grumble

So anyone who voted leave or lives up north can grumble aboit their holiday

But not someone who lives in the south or voted remain

So what happens to a remain voting northerner or a leave voting southerner

Capricorn76 · 27/08/2017 21:10

@margarettwatyer. Many southerners are not rich, many are much poorer than many northerners. Nevertheless, if Brexiters couldn't be convinced by experts or 'southern softie champagne socialists' then I'm sure even greater poverty will do the trick. They'll hopefully realise then that the EU was never their issue, it was their own national government. I won't hold my breath that Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage will give a shiny shit about places like Sunderland when it all goes to shit.

In addition I'm sick of being told to listen to the 'concerns' of Brexiters. I feel as though all we've heard in the media for years are their 'concerns' and their simple solutions to complex problems. They've been whinging for decades and with about 18 months to go still don't appear to have a clue. It's like the rich are playing games with our prosperity, it doesn't affect them.

I'm hoping that after some degree of suffering the country will start respecting experts and celebrate educated people and stop promoting populists and thick loudmouths. Farage was given so much airtime on the BBC to promote his views, I half expected to see him reading the bedtime story on CBeebies.

I have a Brexiter friend on Facebook who complained about rising costs, I managed to restrain myself from telling her to get to fuck before unfollowing her.

orlantina · 27/08/2017 21:10

I think economics and geography is fascinating.

There's the geography and economics of the UK - such a wide variation and local economies - but with a standard UK currency.

And then the link to Europe - with all the geography and economics there. At least we have a degree of control over decisions such as interest rates that affect the exchange rate. But there are many things out of our control...

Should different parts of the UK have their own currency that can fluctuate? The Yorkshire pound.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 27/08/2017 21:17

Read a fascinating book orlantina called PRisoners of geography

Really interesting, would very much recommend it

orlantina · 27/08/2017 21:24

Really interesting, would very much recommend it

Sounds good. We are still very lucky living in the West.

I was idly looking at flights last night - India was £400 return and a pound goes a long way there....

Getout21 · 27/08/2017 21:28

My family has been holidaying in the South of France for more than 20 years as parents bought a holiday home (v.cheaply). We have found that ever since the Euro was introduced, prices have steadily got more expensive.
As other posters have said food is really really cheap here in the UK & there is so much competition between supermarkets. Alcohol is still very cheap in France but I've always found meat much more expensive & also ready made things, packets etc. Eating out can still be a bargain.
The local friends we have made also find it expensive for themselves & Aldi & Lidl have become very popular.

Getout21 · 27/08/2017 21:30

Picking completely agree with you re the Euro, I don't see how it was ever going to work for all those countries.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 27/08/2017 21:31

orlantina

Definitely, Thailand I believe is quite cheap as well...once you are there at least

Friends of mine have just moved to Oman...so i need to do some flight googling as well

Coolhughie · 27/08/2017 21:36

Pretty much this

abilockhart · 27/08/2017 21:40

Picking completely agree with you re the Euro, I don't see how it was ever going to work for all those countries.

and the pound is plummeting against the euro.

Our economy is well and truly fucked so.

gluteustothemaximus · 27/08/2017 21:49

I'll join you with being fucked off.

Try being reliant on the exchange rate for your business Sad

Prices have gone up, sales are down, and we're severely struggling fucked.

But as long as we get our country back. Or something Hmm

Miracle33 · 27/08/2017 21:50

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Ragusa · 27/08/2017 21:51

We are away in mainland EU now. It's more expensive than in recent years but I think part of it is also to do with things becoming more expensive here, too, as well as the exchange rate compounding things. It was totally predictable that currency would take a nosedive as leaving the EU is A.Bad. Now some of the poussins are coming home to roost. The really big poulets will be along later.... but it's OK as there'll be no polski sklep/ cheap factory labour/ diversity and it'll be the 1950s again. Holidays in cornwall! Cream teas! Rain! Really terrible holiday rentals full of chintz that we pay £££ for. Now that is something to look forward to. Hoozah!

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 27/08/2017 21:58

You can have a lovely time in the uk in the summer if you get the weather

Or the grimmest time imaginable if you dont

thecatfromjapan · 27/08/2017 21:58

gluteus I'm not going to even try to be funny about your post, I'm just sorry to hear you're in that position. I'm sure you're not the only one. Good luck. I hope it works out OK.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 27/08/2017 21:59

Yeah sorry gluteus