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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

It's a holiday one...

133 replies

HolidayHilda · 26/08/2017 07:34

Namechanged for this because I'm already mortified about how this might play out and don't want to risk being outed. Been here a while though and like to think if I was going to make something up it'd be more interesting.

Part AIBU part WWYD I guess.

Have two DS and am on a Whatsapp group with a load of mums from older son's school. Don't chat much (I work from home so tend to run in and out and am an antisocial bint who found school politics tough enough when I was going) but on waving terms with everyone, see each other at the kids' birthday parties, school events etc.

Bit of a chat on Whatsapp as people gear up to the start of term, polite chit chat about holidays, moaning about uniform cost etc. I happened to mention we hadn't been on holiday yet, but would be going over half term to a place abroad which was geared up to kids / / should still be pretty warm / was pretty reasonably priced. Woke up this morning to a separate message from one of the other mums from the group, whose DS is in my younger son's class saying 'I hope you don't mind me asking, but where you're going on holiday sounds exactly the kind of place we'd love to go. Is it cheeky to ask exactly where and when you're going and if you mind us booking for the same time? It'd be lovely for the boys to have some friends to play with.'

I read the message an hour ago stupid early rising children, DH is still asleep and the more I think about it the more aghast I'm getting but I can't work out if I'm being unreasonable (or, ok, a bitch actually) or if this is a really weird thing to ask. And I feel like the clock is ticking and the longer I take to reply the more I might end up offending or upsetting this woman.

The thing is, DH and I run our own business which impinges on a lot of our family time. This will be the first full week away we've had since our DC were born. While I'm sure this family is perfectly nice I've only ever really chatted with this woman at the school gate, seen her husband at a distance when he's been doing pick ups and we've never hosted or attended a play date with their DS. We don't go on holiday with our closest friends, so there's no way I'm comfortable doing so - and risking having a disappointing break which will be our only one this year - with people who I don't know. And yes, I know they're not sharing a room with us or anything but it's a small-ish resort, so could end up seeing them a lot around the place.

But then again, if I say no I'm basically saying 'the resort isn't big enough for the both of us'. We're in our own chalet and presumably they would be in theirs could they get one next door?! and we've already got some excursions booked. But I worry that by giving the details I'm giving them the expectation and a green light that we'd be up for going out for lunches, hanging around the pool en masse or doing stuff together when actually we just want to do it the four of us.

But I'm going to have to see this woman at the school gate for years to come. I don't want there to be any weirdness or awkwardness or for her to think I'm a cow. Also, I worry she's lonely and I don't want to be mean if she is genuinely just someone who wants a friend.

TL;DR Woman I barely know wants to bring her family on holiday to the same place at the same time we're going. AIBU to say 'no' (and how the fuck do I phrase it kindly?).

OP posts:
pinkdelight · 26/08/2017 09:10

Definitely don't lie. Just be brief and honest and polite, as per PPs. The woman is overstepping, but I disagree that she's weird for asking. You're a bit nuts for having said it in the first place. Just reading this:

"would be going over half term to a place abroad which was geared up to kids / / should still be pretty warm / was pretty reasonably priced."

Makes me want (need!) to know where you're going so we can too!

DartmoorDoughnut · 26/08/2017 09:12

Why don't you check availability and say sorry it's full, maybe another time or something? Try and dodge the bullet!

GreenTulips · 26/08/2017 09:13

Unfortunately they aren't comfortable with sharing their holiday with strangers,

LOL holidays are full of strangers!!

This woman has asked where your going, she hasn't asked to move innwoth you and your family - she's thinking 'great' if they bump into you not take over - most people want a nice holiday relaxing -

She may take a look online and decide it's not for them or book another hotel near - you are over thinking it

PoppyPopcorn · 26/08/2017 09:13

Nightmare!

We had similar last Easter when we discovered that completely unknown to us, a family with children who we know in the same school had booked exactly the same holiday as us. (I know that's different to purposely booking the same holiday). It was a reasonable small hotel and we couldn't hope to avoid them there.

On the first morning of hte holiday (they had flown in from a different airport so we didn't see them on the flight) I went over to chat to the mum for five minutes, said that we hoped they were enjoying themselves and that yes of course we'd meet up to have a drink in the evening and that we'd probably see them in the dining room and wouldn't it be great for the kids all to play together, BUT please not to think we're being antisocial as we just wanted to sit by the pool and read. Luckily the mum is very nice and very sensible and her response was that she was glad we'd chatted as they'd been afraid we'd limpet onto them all week.

Anyway. In your situation I'd do similar - tackle it head on and explain that holiday time is very precious and that you want to spend it with just the family. Who cares if you offend her - you've spent a lot of money on your holiday and if it's ruined, you can't get that time back.

pictish · 26/08/2017 09:14

Don't apologise. Don't say yadda yadda yadda sorry. You don't need to be sorry for turning down having your holiday gatecrashed by an acquaintance. You simply say no thank you.

The bit about mentioning a possible future group holiday plan is to subtly suggest you're not up for holidaying 'together', without being rude.

I'd never look to holiday somewhere that another local family is going to. I'm with your dh...why....why would someone do this?

But yeah I think you can gently guide her away.

Laine21 · 26/08/2017 09:15

Check for availability at the place you are going, if there are no spaces left, then stop worrying.

If there are spaces, and you already have activities booked or arranged, just tell her you have things booked and it would be nice for children to hang around at the end of the day when you get back.

On the othe hand, if it's a place where there are lots of activities, she may be looking forward to being antisocial herself and hoping there are enough things there to keep her kids occupied.

On the upside, it might be nice, to be able to have a romantic dinner with OH, and you could offer to have her children round for dinner one evening if she can offer to do the same for you.

Arrange to go for coffee and a chat, you may have more in common than you think?

Queenioqueenio · 26/08/2017 09:23

Don't suggest something 'in future' if you don't want to, or else you will end up having the same conversation then as well!
Really cheeky of her to do this btw!

scottishdiem · 26/08/2017 09:27

Best holiday I had as a child was when I parents accidentally booked the same place as other family. It was a full two week job but we were only in the same place for a week (e.g. they had a week there before we did and we had a week after). Having a friend from school made each day great.

Just saying.

scottishdiem · 26/08/2017 09:29

Oops. Forgot to say - this may not be for her. She may be asking as her kids find making friends and doing things hard when on holiday.

Doesnt change the response you will want to go give but just offering a different perspective.

PeralMePots · 26/08/2017 09:36

How about this,

Dear school mum, it is very kind of you to suggest that we spend our holidays in the same resort. This half-term week has very special significance for us as a family so I am sure you will understand, if I decline as we need to spend it alone with the children.

LynetteScavo · 26/08/2017 09:38

Oh yes to blaming DH, and inviting them round for a BBQ.

VelvetSpoon · 26/08/2017 09:43

I find most of the replies on this thread bizarre.

Do people really go on holidays and not speak to another person outside their previous family? All this carping on about family time....

My kids were always happiest on holiday when they had a bunch of other kids to play with. They sill spent plenty of time with me, but it was nice they had little pals to splash around in the pool or kick a football with.

I think this is a massive over reaction to what is just an enquiry. This woman might look at the resort and think actually it's too expensive, or its booked, or think the TripAdvisor reviews aren't great and it's not for them. Or decide actually they might put it off till next year instead.

Even if she does decide to book, she is unlikely to be glued to you every day. You will of course be out on your excursions...quite possibly while you are her family will pall up with some others who aren't quite so cats bum about speaking to other people on their 'family' holiday.

I feel sorry for the woman. She asked a perfectly reasonable question and is going to get a shitty and undeserved reply.

VelvetSpoon · 26/08/2017 09:44

precious not previous

Maelstrop · 26/08/2017 09:46

BUT "Sorry we don't do joint holidays", THOUGH "it would be nice to get the kids together after we get back - they can play whilst I catch up on laundry..."

Perfect. Blunt without being rude and shows her that you don't hate her.

LakieLady · 26/08/2017 09:47

I wouldn't lie. Imagine the embarrassment if, by some fluke, they rocked up at the same place at the same time and found you weren't there on a group/family holiday or whatever.

I also wouldn't say anything that might encourage her to think you might be up for a joint holiday, day at the pool or whatever. A simple "Please don't be offended, but we spend so little time together that we really want to just be alone as a family while we're away" should suffice.

If you think she won't take the piss, you could even tell her where you're going, although that could lead to the risk that your kids will want to spend time with her kids.

AnarchyKitty · 26/08/2017 09:50

I'd just tell her where you're going but also say we doubt we'll see much if you as we have lots of things planned. Maybe meet for a drink one night.
Not lying, to the point and not rude.

FUNM · 26/08/2017 09:50

The WhatsApp message failed so you never got her message Grin

or if it is a resort like 'Butlins' all over the place, 'accidentally' give her the wrong details for one 100 miles away.......too mean

You are probably overthinking as you know your family time is precious and naturally want to protect that quality time from being invaded by outsiders. As PPs have said she may not like the resort at all, then you would end up looking daft if you made a fuss and make it worse for yourself if you have to see her at the school gates for years to come Blush.
Is there ANYTHING negative about the place you could maybe mention that you 'weren't too keen on' (pretend) so it could maybe put her off a bit? Anyway, just message her saying you will be very busy as have activities booked. IF she does decide to join you the very same week then close to the time you will have to say that it is a family holiday and put your foot down if they want to join you - the only way. You will just have to be firm.

Whinesalot · 26/08/2017 09:52

Be polite but honest. Don't tie yourself in knots making silly excuses.

Tralalalalz · 26/08/2017 09:58

velvetspoon I couldn't agree more with you. We've just come back from holiday and one of DD's classmates was there. I know and like her parents but even so I made polite conversation with them, we joined them for a drink one night and the rest of the time we all did our own thing. If we were both around the girls played in the pool, if not they didn't. It was so not a big deal.

LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 26/08/2017 09:59

This happened to me, I just went along with it and it was actually fine. We did our own thing most of the time but went a trip together and chatted at the pool while the kids played maybe twice.

LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 26/08/2017 10:03

Fyi, in my experience getting latched into by strangers on holiday is much worse! Devil you know and all that! Grin

GreenTulips · 26/08/2017 10:04

*Sorry we don't do joint holidays"

She's only asked where they are going - she's not asked to join them

MessyHouse91 · 26/08/2017 10:19

Do you think you could maybe hold her off for a couple of days (say I'll have to speak to DP about it and leave it until after the long weekend). If it's a good deal and it's still hot there you'll probably find that it books up quick. Then when she gets back to you for the details again you can be happy to give her the resort details knowing it's booked up.

WillowKnicks · 26/08/2017 10:28

I'd just tell her where it is & say "but doubt the children will get much time to play together, as we've booked lots of excursions now" because it is true!

It's up to her then if she still wants to go but not with the expectation of hanging around with you. I think she liked the sound of it & said about the children playing together as a sweetener about copying your holiday destination.

nonetcurtains · 26/08/2017 10:28

Are the boys friends? You say they're in the same class but how would your son feel about having this other boy tagging along to everything.

Also I get the feeling that the child will be palmed off onto you to 'entertain' (he so wants to play with your child ALL DAY today, again, along with all his siblings) while the parents go off and do their own thing.

Say No, not this time (never), and enjoy your holiday, You are not an unpaid childminder.