To think they should just ban nuts on all flights

[Ijustwantaquietlife]

Just reading this and it's heartbreaking, seems like such a simple change to ban nuts on all flights to help protect people.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

I've heard several people on mn saying they've been on flights where they were banned, seams to make sense as nut allergies are so widespread to just ban all together imo.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

For the tiny amount of people who have allergies, intolerances and so on, the majority have to suffer.

Surely has to be said by someone who has absolutely no clue about allergies.
How on earth are you suffering by being deprived of a bag of nuts for a few hours?
I don't have a peanut allergy but the mind absolutely boggles as to what kind of a selfish pig someone would actually have to be as to willingly put someone's life at risk so they could settle down with a bag of dried roasted.

most liekly nut alligieys have become a thing because people are not dying so much from them as young babies because of medical care improvements? Because until relitively recently child death was far more common than today so if the young children are not dying of their allgyies = more people with allgyies right? not too difficult to understand

Its like saying why are there so many cancer surviverors?

Please explain how they are being penalised.

Say a child really loves nuts. Not allowed to have peanut butter on toast before school, not allowed to take any peanut containing product to school, not allowed to have peanut products in the evening in case traces remain. So basically never allowed to eat nuts except maybe on a Saturday. Say 398 kids in a school love nuts, but 2 kids are allergic - this means none of the other 398 kids are allowed to eat something they absolutely love. How is this fair on the 398?

sun I'm waiting for you to provide evidence of For the tiny amount of people who have allergies, intolerances and so on, the majority have to suffer

I couldn't care less whether airlines ban nuts or not - I can manage a few hours without a packet. However, where does it stop. Do we ban nuts everywhere - including pubs? Will we stop people eating them in theatres and cinemas? What percentage of people have a nut allergy so severe that they would react to someone else in the vicinity eating nuts? A PP said her DD has a nut allergy but they never get an announcement made - so I'm assuming that is due to a differing level of reaction rather than a refusal by the airline?

I have flown many many times and can only ever once recall an announcement that nuts would not be served on a flight due to a passenger having a nut allergy. Given the small number of people it may affect, I think an overall ban is probably not the way to go but have no objections to bans on individual flights where considered necessary.

Blindfold tests show people with nut allergies dont react to peanutbutter sandwiches

Peanuts are not nuts.

However, I think if there is a ban on nuts on a plane, and somebody eats them regardless, they should be charged with attempted manslaughter. That might concentrate a few minds.

I thought they already were banned. I keep getting pretzels abs haven't had nuts for years. On one flight I got chocolate (Ryan Air I think). Though why people flying short flights need to graze like toddlers I will never know.

Ban NUTS on airplanes no problem. But for PC and equality reasons ban them in restaurants, in cafes, in canteens, in schools, everywhere. In the home, in the car, on the street, just go for it.

PC and equality? Please enlighten us further.

Okay sun lets try this very slowly.

Having an allergic reaction to something someone else is eating is more likely on a plane because of the recycled air.

Having an allergic reaction to something on a plane is far FAR more dangerous due to the additional time it will take to get to a hospital.

THEREFORE it makes sense to ban nuts on flights, even though you don't have any intention of generally banning them everywhere else.

Do you get it yet?

Would it help to consider the case of fireworks, blow torches, or non-safety matches? They are generally okay out there in the world....but not so much on planes...where any ignition could lead to catastrophe.

I love
Do you really think that 299 people in a plane all want to eat nuts and are suffering because they can't have them for a few hours?

Can you look up 'suffeting' in the dictionary as you obviously don't understand the word.
Our primary school banned nuts due to a pupil being highly allergic to them
Nobody suffered cos they couldn't have nuts at school there is plenty time after school and weekends to have them.

You think using Dettol wipes causes life threatening nut allergies

It has been argued that the increase in allergies has been caused by people being too clean. However I read an article recently (wish I could remember where) which said that this was mainly a fallacy.

I didn't realise that they were still given out with drinks on planes. We've flown Virgin Atlantic numerous times over the last 10 years and it's always pretzels with drinks and I just always assumed that all airlines would be the same due to nut allergies. The only other airlines I've used in that period have been for flights less than an hour so no experience of a drinks service on those.

ILovepenutsand Nuts does those children love of nuts trump someones right to live?

serously I hope to god no one you love has serious allgieys and they cannot forgo nuts before school / in school 5 days a week for what 30 weeks of a year?

So we should force nut / other allegies forced to be home schooled / in a asylum away from other people so "normal" people should adjust their lives ever so slightly so another can do such a labourous horrid thing as attend school like a normal person shame on you.

Both my DDs have severe nut allergies. One of my DDs has an egg and fish allergy also. We have always been able to eat fish and egg in her presence, but never the peanuts. Just being in the presence of its can start a reaction. My DD started school this year and it has been such a worrying time handing control over to the school. They are very aware and do not serve nuts. This story is very upsetting, I try and manage the allergy and make decisions all the time when eating out, so many things say may contain nuts. To know that the epipen isn't always effective is also a wake up call for me. Regarding an aeroplane, I really hope that people would be kind enough for forgo eating nuts for just a few hours.

Have you explained how allowing 398 children to bring peanut butter in to school (if they all wanted to) and thereby causing the death of even 1 of the remaining 2 is fair? Should this be allowed because the peanut eaters have the majority?

Are children actually being told not to eat peanut butter at the weekend for example? Are they? DD is not allowed to take nuts in to school in her packed lunch, but nothing has been said about eating them outside of school.

That was to ILovePeanuts obviously!

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I have no allergies and was filthy as a pig as a child (I just liked digging in the dirt and paddling in burns).

Ds has no allergies and is definitely of the hand gel generation.

I dong think it's as simple as cleanliness 'causing' allergies. I suspect it's pesticides, more chemicals used in everyday things and pollution. Plus better healthcare so fewer children die when babies/small from things like tetenus (as they did not all that long ago).

I realise that there are life threatening allergies out there, that's what epipens are for. What about when said person is in the airport, queuing for the flight, dangers are everywhere.

On a plane there's nowhere to go. You're stuck in an enclosed space with recycled air with no way of escaping or easy access to a hospital.
How is that in any way comparable to being on ground and in an airport?

It's already been explained that due to the way planes recycle air then the risk of anaphylaxis is much higher than in pretty much any other setting.

Add the fact that medical attention isn't exactly accessible 30k feet in the air.

Either an outright ban or a ban when there's someone with a nut allergy on flight makes sense.

Oh and education people on epi pens and what they actually do might help. Seems like many people think they are a magic cure.

I haven't read all the responses but just wanted to flag up that only some airlines will make annoucements. My 3yr old has a serious peanut allergy. Virgin will not make announcements: BA will sometimes but never have for us.

So please be aware that even if you don't hear an announcement there may still be someone with an allergy on the plane.

Thankfully it's never been an issue for us.

I've seen a reaction to a peanut butter sandwich with my own eyes and it was horrific. 35 years ago at school someone for whatever reason smeared a peanut butter sandwich on a dining hall table. One of the girls sitting nearby immediately got a red face that then swelled up and her eyes were watering so much it looked like she was crying. She was allergic to nuts. I've never forgotten that, how quick and severe it was.

The worrying thing is nuts or traces of nuts are in so many things - biscuit packets I think have warnings on them that they might have been manufactured in a factory where there has been nuts.

It's already been explained that due to the way planes recycle air then the risk of anaphylaxis is much higher than in pretty much any other setting.

Yeah, but some people are thick enough to imagine they're making a clever point when they substitute some completely different setting with completely different risks.

Oh and education people on epi pens and what they actually do might help. Seems like many people think they are a magic cure.

This too. They're not a magic wand. Merely injects the allergy sufferer with a shot of adrenalin to to try and "kickstart" the body back awake and stop going into unconsciousness as far as I know.

It has been argued that the increase in allergies has been caused by people being too clean. However I read an article recently (wish I could remember where) which said that this was mainly a fallacy.
According to the science press, the "hygiene hypothesis" is still by far the best one we have.

Eating dirt and getting mucky is one of the best protections against allergies.

Mothers eating peanuts HAS been disproved as a cause

BUT
Peanuts are not nuts. They are more closely related to peas and broad beans.