To think they should just ban nuts on all flights

[Ijustwantaquietlife]

Just reading this and it's heartbreaking, seems like such a simple change to ban nuts on all flights to help protect people.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

I've heard several people on mn saying they've been on flights where they were banned, seams to make sense as nut allergies are so widespread to just ban all together imo.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

*I don't think the 99.99% should be penalised just so the 0.01% can breathe and get of the plane alive."

I'm probably going to get slaughtered for this, but I have a right to speak my mind smile. Personally - and please don't think I don't have sympathy for people with genuine allergies, I really do - I don't think the 99.99% should be penalised for the 0.01%.

A good tip, for anyone reading, is that if all someone can offer in defence of their opinion is that they have a right to express it, they're probably being a dick. Smiley face or otherwise.

Are the people campaigning for this wanting it for peanuts specifically, or all nuts? I thought, but am prepared to be corrected, that people with Peanut allergies tended to have more severe reactions.

We had the announcement on a flight to the states last year. Fair enough, except that DD was given Nutella in her in-flight meal. It just made me wonder if it was lower risk? BTW she didn't open it...

I actually thought they were.

I've only had pretzels and the like in the last few years.

I wouldn't mind giving them up for the duration of the flight the sake of someone's health and life !

The lady mentioned in OP had her devastating anaphylactic shock in a restaurant, quite far away from a plane cabin.

Yes, and her family are supporting a campaign to ban nuts from flights after a boy nearly died because some ignorant twat opened a bag of nuts next to him despite being told not to.

We have nut free schools

Well you might think we do and yet some parents, like posters on here, think it's all hilarious bullshit. The wife of one of our Governors was delighting and laughing in how she WILL send her DC to school with peanut butter sandwiches, regardless of the nut ban. It was just a joke to her.

trust no one.

Penalised ?!? It's a bloody nut not the holy grail. You can wait a few hours surely ?

Goshawk, it's hardly a life changing impingement (foregoing nuts for a few hours). Just think if was your loved one so badly affected - you would do anything to help them surely.

Anyway, I'd rather have Pringles.

Sun where are your figures backing up 'creeping allergenic/intolerant minority has us all falling all over them everywhere

Goshawk wtf? Gosh

ILovePeanuts - I agree that it is completely reasonable for somebody with a peanut allergy to find an alternative restaurant. But an alternative plane? An alternative school?

Are you suggesting that all DCs with a peanut allergy should be home schooled? Should people with a severe peanut allergy not be allowed to fly?

Where both groups of people (so those with an allergy and those who like to eat peanuts) are purely preference groups, then of course the 299 out of 300 would take precedence. But when one group is purely based on preference and the other is based on medical need, the medical need has to come first.

Every child should have the right to go to school wherever possible - they certainly shouldn't be stopped by the presence of a bloomin' peanut! Likewise, flights - people shouldn't have to limit their experience of the world to places they can drive to for the sake of others enjoying a peanut with their G&T!

Restaurants, fine - there are acceptable alternatives.

YANBU, of course the majority should be expected to manage without nuts for a few hours on a plane, so that the minority with severe nut allergy can avoid death/severe brain damage.

I cannot believe some of the vile responses to the contrary on here today. FFS, what is wrong with people? Just how entitled, self-centred and downright thick do you have to be to think your desire to eat nuts while on a flight trumps somebody else's right to life? Unbelievable!

NC'ing to ILovePeanutsAndNuts on a thread prompted by a ferociously talented young woman who is now severely brain damaged due to nuts - just.... wow.

Yeah, you're like so funny... Not.

And I'm just hazarding a guess here but you've never reached the echelons Amy (bright, bubbly telly producer pre this utter horror) had have you? Nah, and I doubt you ever will.

Imagine all those poor deprived travelers staggering off planes the world over, rushing though immigration only to dash off on wobbly legs looking for their nearest nut fix.

"I'm probably going to get slaughtered for this, but I have a right to speak my mind smile. Personally - and please don't think I don't have sympathy for people with genuine allergies, I really do - I don't think the 99.99% should be penalised for the 0.01%."

How is not being able to eat nuts on a plane ride 'being penalised'?? Eating nuts is not a human right. Unless there is some medical condition where you can only eat nuts - and I've never heard of such a thing.

Kursk We live by being careful and for places like his school understanding the risks assicoated with it and with them dealing with non-complying parents.

We basically do not eat out and avoid eating places as much as possible, its not easy granted but what the altinitive being risky and risking my childs life?

We also aviod busy places as well on holidays we bring out own cooking utilizses etc and prepare all our own food. sorry about the deley had to pick my children from holiday club (whom also practices a nut ban btw).

Ban NUTS on airplanes no problem. But for PC and equality reasons ban them in restaurants, in cafes, in canteens, in schools, everywhere. In the home, in the car, on the street, just go for it.

There is a braying mob out there, but some very notable and intelligent posters have a pragmatic and opposite view. We are not all nodding donkeys, with due respect to donkeys.

So as well as checking bags for potential bomb making hazards, security will have to check for nuts as well?

I enjoy a small bag of nuts with my G&T when flying

As long as you enjoy your drink eh?

I saw that beautiful girl, Amy, and he family on This Morning, and I was upsetting and tragic to see what had happened to her, despite the use of her epipen, and in her case, the restaurant had no public liability insurance so she gets nothing, not a penny.

There's a few wankers gathered here for a Monday afternoon.

…In fact what needs to happen is that there needs to be a greater study conducted into how nut allergies have become such a thing when they previously weren't…

…I would be interested to know why allergies such as nuts have become more prevalent over the past few years…

Too much mollycoddling for far too long.

A friend of ours did the ultimate clinical hygiene thing for her DS. He now suffers from every possible allergy known to man. Good old Dettol wipes eh?

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StillStayingClassy,

Argue your point thank you. Have you any counter argument to put forward yet?

But calling people wankers is probably the height of your debating skills.

I love having a day off on Mondays, and I love this kind of indignant stuff too. When argued properly that is.

I agree they should be banned. My daughter is allergic to peanuts and chickpeas. An airline we travelled with served peanuts on a transatlantic flight despite me asking by phone before we travelled, at check-in, at the gate, and as we boarded, if they could please refrain from selling peanuts. Her last serious reaction at school was NOT as a result of eating them (probably contact, possibly airborne). Luckily she didn't have a reaction on the flight, but we were diligently wiping everything she touched and it was an anxious 7 hours.

People who say "just have your epipen then" don't realise how horrible a severe allergic reaction is for someone. It's painful and terrifying.

To those idiots who say an airborne reaction is a myth - why would you discount people's personal experiences!

Also, accusing those with life threatening allergies of being attention seeking is just thoughtless and cruel. My 12 is mortified every time she has to ask or explain about her allergy, and would dearly love not to have to do it.

Actually, a fair bit of the responsibility for nut allergies not being taken all that seriously rests with the precious, attention-seeking snowflakes who don't have life-threatening allergies but believe bullshit about 'intolerances' they have read on the internet and therefore start performing whenever they think they are being ignored.
There are genuine, severe, very dangerous food allergies, but the number of people who act up in restaurants just because they want everyone to see how 'special' they are means that a lot of people have limited patience with those who make a fuss about food ingredients even when there is good reason for it.

Too much mollycoddling for far too long

A friend of ours did the ultimate clinical hygiene thing for her DS. He now suffers from every possible allergy known to man. Good old Dettol wipes eh?

You think using Dettol wipes causes life threatening nut allergies?