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To think they should just ban nuts on all flights

999 replies

Ijustwantaquietlife · 21/08/2017 15:45

Just reading this and it's heartbreaking, seems like such a simple change to ban nuts on all flights to help protect people.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

I've heard several people on mn saying they've been on flights where they were banned, seams to make sense as nut allergies are so widespread to just ban all together imo.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

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4691IrradiatedHaggis · 23/08/2017 23:08

But anyway, there is no problem banning nuts on a plane, it's easy, I have no problem with it.

Just fuck off off the thread as you're talking shit and causing distress to real people, not that you care.
I rarely ever swear on here unless on this thread. You've shown countless time on this thread that you do have a problem with banning nuts.

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 23/08/2017 23:11

No need to be personally abusive, it is so unnecessary, as is the awful swearing too.

Yeah, cross posted with this. I don't usually swear. It's not in my nature. Whatever you are, you deserve a lesson in allergy suffering soon.

sunglassally · 23/08/2017 23:13

469

I am sorry that you appear to be so distressed. Not my fault, I am just putting forward an argument. Is that OK?

Allergies can happen anywhere, on land, sea, at home at school whatever.

I am asking if nut allergies on a plane are any different to other allergies that people may suffer IF THEY INGEST THE ALLERGEN. Not if it is beside them, or on someone's hands, or in the air conditioning unit or air circulation.

No one has answered this yet. And it doesn't seem to have happened on a plane either provided allergic person hasn't eaten them.

I do not want anyone to die because of an allergy. But afais, any tragic deaths that have occurred have happened because the person ate or ingested something themselves, unknown to them of course, and it is tragic.

sunglassally · 23/08/2017 23:17

469

That is an absolutely awful thing to say to anyone, that they should get a lesson in allergy suffering soon. I am absolutely shocked that anyone would wish that on anyone.

Shakes head....

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 23/08/2017 23:19

It's not just the recycled air - it's the lack of medical help available

That's it, isn't it. On ground, you're usually easily able to get to help. On a plane though, you're approx 35,000 feet in the air and potentially hundreds of miles from land and help.
Not serving nuts such is a small price to pay. I don't suffer from a nut allergy, but would have no qualms not having them for a few hours. It's not a hardship, or an erosion of civil liberty. Basic human decency to forgo as a snack on a flight if someone was fatally allergic.

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 23/08/2017 23:21

That is an absolutely awful thing to say to anyone, that they should get a lesson in allergy suffering soon. I am absolutely shocked that anyone would wish that on anyone.Shakes head....

Why? According to you there's not enough evidence they exist so why are you bothered? Read your posts back.

sunglassally · 23/08/2017 23:24

469

For the record I have continually said that I have no problem with peanuts being banned on aircraft. It is an easy thing to do isn't it?

Minimises risk. I don't know where you get the idea that I am against this rule.

There is no proof it will work though, but however, it will help I suppose and that's a good thing.

I hope you are not one of those sad people who check up on a poster to see what they might have said already. I will give you the benefit of the doubt there!

BeyondThePage · 23/08/2017 23:26

It's not just the recycled air - the recycled air is actually the least of the worries - on most aircraft, air is circulated through hospital-grade HEPA filters, which remove over 99% percent of bacteria, as well as airborne particles. The air you need to worry about is that surrounding your near neighbours or your route in and out of the aircraft/toilets etc - not the recycled stuff - that takes the peanut dust OUT of circulation.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 23/08/2017 23:31

sunglassy

Why on earth would anyone report you? For what?

Seriously, I'm really curious

Fresh8008 · 23/08/2017 23:42

This is what is scary. A very small number of people on social media swear and curse that something should be banned without any actual evidence. As a society we cant allow ourselves to descend to such an American low. We have to base our society on facts and what is actually true, otherwise we descend into a Trumpian chaos.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 23/08/2017 23:45

Are you typing that with a straight face fresh ?

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 23/08/2017 23:47

sunglassy Why on earth would anyone report you? For what?

Don't engage, learnt that earlier but got sucked in with one of the latest posts. Best to ignore, seriously, read the thread, realise and don''t engage.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 23/08/2017 23:48

Oh i agree haggis

Talk about bigging up your part Grin

MiansyMoo · 23/08/2017 23:50

I don't normally swear, but what is the fucking problem here?

People not eating nuts = some people have to forfeit nuts for a short while, they manage

People eat nuts as they're selfish bastards = possibility of death

Yes there are other allergies, but nut allergies are very common, more likely to be airborne and normally more serious.

Are people really saying that they couldn't eat nuts for a few hours? IMO there are much bigger issues than someone not being able to eat nuts on a flight. If not being able to eat nuts for a short time distresses you that much, you need to rethink your priorities.

Yes, the woman in this terribly sad story took a known risk and was not in a plane, but on a plane the risk is amplified as there is no hospital nearby. The plane has to emergency land. Massive cost is incurred. People are delayed. Possible death.

In the scheme of that, can you see how not eating nuts for a few hours is the better option?

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 23/08/2017 23:50

Are you typing that with a straight face fresh ?
Grin
literally just read the update like this Confused Hmm
and then read this. WTAF has allergies got to do with America and Trump? God almighty, he's a fuck nugget, but what he's got do with allergies is anyone's guess! This thread is crackers.

Graceflorrick · 23/08/2017 23:52

Of course they should ban them! I don't have a nut allergy and neither does anyone I know, but a persons life is more important than being able to enjoy a bag of nuts on a plane!

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 00:01

Thank you for the Trumponian and American quote. It's literally given me the giggles and shown that some views on this thread are actually batshit instead of worrying.. Grin

Want2bSupermum · 24/08/2017 00:28

The irony being that Trump hasn't flown commercial in decades!!!

FUNM · 24/08/2017 00:51

i can tell you it ain't much fun having an asthma attack and being a few minutes away from dying, watching your hands turn blue and the life drain out of you and not be able to control it...all from eating nuts. It is also horrible and terrifying when you are on a flight and people start eating nuts and you are forced to breathe it in. Surely it is a no brainer that any airborne allergy should require a ban in a confined space like a flight.

FUNM · 24/08/2017 00:53

The reason there are more people with nut allergy, in my opinion, is that our diet has changed and become poorer over the last few decades that our immune system has become weakened and made people more susceptible to allergies.

BeALert · 24/08/2017 00:56

As a society we cant allow ourselves to descend to such an American low. We have to base our society on facts and what is actually true, otherwise we descend into a Trumpian chaos

In a thread full of batshit wankerisms you win :-D

BeALert · 24/08/2017 00:57

The reason there are more people with nut allergy, in my opinion, is that our diet has changed and become poorer over the last few decades that our immune system has become weakened and made people more susceptible to allergies.

There are lots of theories like this.

My daughter had her first allergic reaction to nuts when she was still exclusively breastfed - someone ate a peanut then kissed her.

I guess we can blame the poor quality of my breastmilk...?

SinisterBumFacedCat · 24/08/2017 01:28

The reason there appears to be more people with nut allergies is because there is generally more awareness nowadays. Unfortunately people still like to blame the sufferers themselves, or their parents mothers.

worridmum · 24/08/2017 02:21

And the children survive more often as well so not all are there more people about they reach reproduction ages and pass the allgey down to their children (its often hereditary but not always).

And the agligy socity people keep mentioning are bloody bat shit look at there recomendations prior 2007 where the advise people to find there children there agliges regularly to build up tolarance and campagined that no adustments were needed as there wasnt much of a problem.

Sorry again about spelling phone doesn5 have spell checker and i am dyslexic.

DeleteOrDecay · 24/08/2017 08:33

The reason there appears to be more people with allergies now is simply because we are aware of them. In times gone by people would die from anaphylaxis except we didn't know that was the cause at the time. Often people assumed they were choking.

Allergies have always existed in the same way ASD has always existed.