To think they should just ban nuts on all flights

[Ijustwantaquietlife]

Just reading this and it's heartbreaking, seems like such a simple change to ban nuts on all flights to help protect people.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

I've heard several people on mn saying they've been on flights where they were banned, seams to make sense as nut allergies are so widespread to just ban all together imo.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

trickster
Eight out of hundreds of millions.
You are right, its nowhere near enough evidence for an enforced ban

Haven't read the thread, but yes, I think they should be banned.

This is the second thread about allergies today.

Why are they so damn prevalent now? Surely it has got something to do with peanut oil being used in vaccines?

I would be very frightened if I had a child with all these allergies. How can they be improved? (genuinely not that knowledgable about allergies but find it odd more isn't being done to combat the huge numbers who suffer these days)

Surely it has got something to do with peanut oil being used in vaccines?
Que ?????

And why are you so fixated on airlines handing out packets of nuts when they are not the problem?
As stated soooooo many times on here, no, packets of nuts being handed out are not the problem.
It's just nonsensical to keep on handing them out though when people react to airborne allergies and it's a known allergen.
Surely any decent human being would be all for decreasing the risk.

No. 8 out of 3700 surveyed.

And the logical conclusion is that the toddler touched or ingested nuts.
No. No, it really isn't! I react to stuff and I don't have to touch or ingest.
With all due respect you are spouting absolute shit and clearly know nothing about allergies.

So because one allergy is affected by airborne particles, therefore all allergies are affected by airborne particles. ?

4691
Yup, I've said at least twice - no need for airlines to hand out free nuts.

But most airlines don't so its a trivial issue in the big scheme of things.

trickster
Study linked at 21:16
765,000,000 passengers
265 allergic emergencies

That's enough for me. To change one food being served/sold. It's enough.

Ta1 www.thedoctorwithin.com/allergies/vaccines-and-the-peanut-allergy-epidemic/

trickster
To change one food being served/sold. It's enough.
But that will not stop nuts being on planes ......
so its pointless

if 265 emergencies out of 765,000,000 journeys is enough to ban something, when are you banning cars?

starutopia
that article references Wakefield. At which point it loses any credibility.

Starutopia. No.
www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

To me, talking, as a parent to an allergic child, the non-availability of nuts to buy or be given on a plane, cuts the risk massively. Simply by the number of bags available. Not completely, but in our lives, nowhere is risk free, we're completely cool with that and live it daily.

Today 21:34 StarUtopia

Haven't read the thread, but yes, I think they should be banned.

This is the second thread about allergies today.

Why are they so damn prevalent now? Surely it has got something to do with peanut oil being used in vaccines?

havent rtft either but the thing about peanut oil in vaccines (never knew about that before) is similar to what I was told when my DD 3 was diagnosed with a peanut allergy, ie it was in the zinc and castor oil cream I used - horrifying.

I don't think anyone has a problem with banning nuts on planes, myself included.

The problem is where does it end. I totally realise that other allergies are not airborne or whatever, and therefore are less risky than nuts, but I'm afraid a whole industry has grown up around those who are allergic to this and that. I say that with the utmost sympathy for sufferers, but honestly, this thread is nearly 1,000 posts long and still no one has provided any proof that nuts on a plane will cause devastating injury or death.

If anyone has links to deaths on airplanes from nut dust recycled via the air circulation on a plane, please let us know.

And as others have pointed out, it's all very well to ban nuts on board, but who can say whether other passengers have nut residue on their hands, having eaten them pre boarding, or indeed have brought their own food on board that may be nut laden, even unknown to them.

Anyway thread will be closed at 1,000 posts, so get your comments in now folks!

I used to travel a lot with someone with a severe but allergy. When he went on the plane they refused to sell any and told people not to eat them. I'd think that would be enough.

Lucysky "also if someone has a cat or dog and sits next to me I am genuinely extgremely ill within a very short period. Could we force people not to travel who have cats and dogs or are smokers to accommodate me?"

Are you actually being serious? Do you seriously compare your dislike of animal smell with anaphylactic reaction? Get a grip

is thread is nearly 1,000 posts long and still no one has provided any proof that nuts on a plane will cause devastating injury or death.
Spot on

If it was the problem people claim, people like the anaphylaxis society would be campaigning for the ban and yet even they claim there is no evidence that peanut dust circulates.

bruffin.

Glad there is someone out there who agrees with me. I have had many nasty comments directed at me here, and was probably reported ad infinitum up to now, but I am a battler! The truth wins.

It is one thing to ingest an allergen that could possible kill you, it is another thing to say that nuts anywhere on a plane could do the same if you DO NOT ingest them.

I will await rebuttal.

and still no one has provided any proof that nuts on a plane will cause devastating injury or death.

Google isn't throwing up any definitive study, you're right. You'd think one had been done, but it apparently hasn't. Or at least one hasn't been published anyway, for us all to see.
Does that mean it doesn't happen though? Airborne allergies exist, that much is evident from this thread, from links and personal experiences. Why so insistent, because it's never happened to you, that unless Google says so, it doesn't happen?
They clearly do.

I'm not here to have an argument, but honestly if there is no peer reviewed study proving this, then it really doesn't exist does it.

Individual experiences are just that. Bad reaction, breathlessness, rash, tingling.... same as someone allergic to any substance.

My point was, did anyone die or suffer awfully from exposure to airborne nut dust on a plane. Seems not. Unless they ingested it THEMSELVES unwittingly. I doubt anyone would do that voluntarily.

I rest my case that airborne nut dust does not cause fatal reaction in anyone, if it even exists that is. One must ingest nuts/dust to get this IMO.

But anyway, there is no problem banning nuts on a plane, it's easy, I have no problem with it. I just think it is useless.

OP YANBU. ..my friend was served nuts in a meal on a plane despite her telling them she was allergic. Flying over Central Asia at the time, nowhere they could land. She was fine after treatment but it could have been disastrous if her epipen didn't work. It's not just the recycled air - it's the lack of medical help available

If anyone has links to deaths on airplanes from nut dust recycled via the air circulation on a plane, please let us know.
I know, I know, I'm feeding the GF troll again. Try READING the thread and seeing actual first hand experiences of swelling eyes, throats. Maybe you'll only be happy with a death. Then you might consider. Probably not though.

No need to be personally abusive, it is so unnecessary, as is the awful swearing too.

Argue the point or get off the pot if you don't mind. Thank you.