To think they should just ban nuts on all flights

[Ijustwantaquietlife]

Just reading this and it's heartbreaking, seems like such a simple change to ban nuts on all flights to help protect people.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

I've heard several people on mn saying they've been on flights where they were banned, seams to make sense as nut allergies are so widespread to just ban all together imo.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

I like nuts but I'd much rather they weren't allowed on planes if there's a small chance that someone could suffer terrible effects from accidentally ingesting them.

We can all manage a few hours without nuts, surely?

I know this particular case wasn't plane related but it's very relevant when an epi-pen might not be effective and there's no access to medical facilities.

As someone else said above, do we have any idea why nut allergies are so common these days? They used to be extremely rare.

Morphene ... Bottles of water are not banned on the plane... you can buy it air-side at the airport or take an empty bottle and fill it from a drinking fountain.

Most airports sell M&M's...

We had the announcement on the plane last time we flew. They don't need to ban them but carry on doing what they currently do - and enforce it if people are ignoring the announcement. I'm sure an airline could fine a passenger for disobeying the rules in the same way they fine them for being drunk?

If only they could ban farting on the plane. It was awful. The culprit was quite open about it, but it was rather grim.
My fault for flying cheap maybe? Perhaps a first class fart isn't as bad?

When they announce no nuts they should say that if you have nuts and it causes a severe reaction in someone, not only will your holiday be delayed as the plane will reroute to obtain medical help, you will be charged the costs incurred since you basically deliberately caused their reaction.

Because some people are selfish twunts and won't take notice unless something affects them directly and personally. So make it their problem

Surely if you know you have an allergy you'd carry your epi pen/medication.

You do realise that epi-pens don't stop the reaction? They just stop/slow it down so there's enough time for proper medical attention. They are not magic wands.

Personally I don't see the harm in stopping selling them on planes and in airports. No one needs nuts on a plane.

When my DD was diagnosed with a nut allegy, it was explained that the epipen is not a magic cure, it gives a window of opportunity to get to hospital and get proper medical care.

People need to be educated on the difference between allergy/intolerance. They also need to stop claiming to be intolerant/allergic to something just because they want an excuse for not eating something they happen to dislike.

Yes, they should be banned.

DD1 has never flown because of this risk. She is very severely allergic to peanuts, so severely that she reacted to the skin prick test and had to be kept in hospital.

She also has a heart condition meaning that using epipens is very risky for her. However, not using them when she goes into anaphylaxis is certain death so she carries them and hopes they will never be needed.

There is a lot of ignorance around, as is seen on some of these posts, and selfishness from some people who seem to think their right to a bag of nuts on a flight trumps someone else's right to not have their life put in danger. Because of that, and the fact that the recycled air makes flying different to other activities, we've never taken the risk.

Incidentally I used the peanut oil nipple cream. This was 1996. Was told by the midwife not to wash it off as it was perfectly safe. By the time her younger sister was born the peanut oil had been replaced. DD2 has no allergies and can eat any amount of peanuts. So who knows. I fully accept it may just be luck of the draw.

Not having nuts on a flight makes sense even to the most selfish of passengers. If somebody has a medical emergency then the plane is diverted to the nearest available airport, everybody's journey is disrupted.

However it would make more sense to allow airlines to refuse to carry passengers who don't comply with a request not to eat nuts. If selfish nut-eaters know that in the event the flight is diverted as a result of their nut eating then they will be abandoned in whatever location the flight is diverted to, then I imagine they would be more compliant.

The airlines themselves must be quite anxious to avoid medical emergencies too, from a purely financial and logistical point of view it must be quite costly every time it happens.

I don't have a nut allergy but everytime I am handed a packet on a flight I wonder why they take such a huge risk.

WTF does this have to do with nuts on flights?

The woman featured on This Morning ingested a quantity of her allergen while eating in a restaurant in Bulgaria.

No they should not be banned on flights, this woman ate a meal with nuts in it, banning them from being in meals or taking personal responsibility and bringing your own food is the answer.

Air bourn nut allergy to the extent portrayed in the media is pretty much a myth, you cannot get a reaction because someone at rhe other end of the plane is eating nuts. Worst case it would be the people in the seats next/behind/in front of you to not eat as a precaution. How do you know the person in the seat befor uou didn't eat nuts? Wipe their hands on the seats? What about If they were eating nuts before they got on the plane and had residue on their hands? . Or they were eating rhem in the airport as you walked past.

This extreme hysterical over reaction annoys me. People get on a plane and want the whole plane to not eat nuts and any doctor or expert will tell you it's not necessary. If you are so allergic and think uou have an extreme air bourn allergy airlines should not fly you as they do not deep clean the plane between flights and your safety cannot be assured. You would be wearing a mask in your daily life.

The hysteria has to stop and people need to learn to manage their allergies.

would be much harder to expect people to go without cheese for instance, or dairy based spreads, or to request that babies not be fed milk on a plane, and yet the life of the dairy allergic person is surely just as valid as that of the nut-allergic one? And if not, why not

Because people are not always clear as to what they have. Allergy and intolerance of a food product are two different things and often people have an intolerance but claim they have an allergy.

The difference is an allergy can kill you, an intolerance causes a lot of painful and uncomfortable effects.

If eating or drinking a food causes a visible reaction, it's an allergy that can lead to anaphylaxis which can kill. If you eat something and it causes uncomfortable side effects (wind, loose stools, pain in tummy etc) it's an intolerance and won't kill you.

Often dairy and wheat are intolerances and won't kill and are not usually air born.

My friends peanut allergy means she can't have almonds, peanuts or chickpeas and she advises airline before flying. It's amazing how disgustingly selfish people are when everything containing those products is removed from the plane. She had a reaction and the plane had to emergency land because someone ate a Bakewell tart they had on the plane and were told not to eat.

WTF does this have to do with nuts on flights? The woman featured on This Morning ingested a quantity of her allergen while eating in a restaurant in Bulgaria

This, I wondered this too.

I don't have a nut allergy but everytime I am handed a packet on a flight I wonder why they take such a huge risk

Because there is no risk.

I once had a conversation with a very patronising and rather rude relative of my H's who informed me that nut allergy was entirely down to lack of moral fibre and silliness on the part of western countries. Apparently in Malaysia nobody ever has a nut allergy because children are fed nuts/nut oil as soon as they are weaned. I was trying to be polite because he was an older relative and you are supposed to respect age out there, but in the end I told him that infant mortality was immensely higher in Malaysia than any western country so, in my opinion, it was probable that nut allergic children died in infancy. At the time I only said it to make him fucking shut up (honestly, he bored on and on, it's not that interesting a topic), but I checked the figures afterwards and infant mortality is far higher so I could have been right.

My friends peanut allergy means she can't have almonds, peanuts or chickpeas and she advises airline before flying. It's amazing how disgustingly selfish people are when everything containing those products is removed from the plane. She had a reaction and the plane had to emergency land because someone ate a Bakewell tart they had on the plane and were told not to eat

This is beyond bullshit.

They lady on This Morning had such a severe allergy that if a packet of peanuts was opened on a flight it would be a risk due to particles in the air. The medical expert explained it. I might have thought it was a ridiculous prospect before I saw This Morning. It was truly heartbreaking. And it's no big deal going for a few hours without eating a bloody peanut is it?!

Yes she did until the other passgeners told her to pack it in i dont remeber if it was a nervious laugh or one where she generually thought it was funny i was too busy trying to deal with my son.

I am not a violent person but she was the closest i have been to wanting to beat someone senseless.

I am sorry again for the massive rant.

I am not reading a Daily Mail article but yeh I agree, your not in the Air for more than 14hours at a time I'm sure people can go without nuts for short periods of time.

Given how common and serve not allergies can be it seems reasonable. If not an outright ban then at least not serving them?

bluntness i can assure you it is NOT a myth my son is DEADLY ALLEGIC TO THE AIRBORN PARTICULERS.

If you do not know the facts bluntness please dont spread misinformation which endangerous more lives.

It is exactly the same as Rape myths were enough people spread them people start to belive them to be true when in fact they are completely bogus or misunderstood the orignal fact.

Am amazed at the selfish people who go on to eat nuts, even knowing there's someone with a severe nut allergy on the plane. But we really need to know the number of flights this affects. If it's only, say, one in a hundred flights on which someone has such a severe allergy, it makes sense only to have a ban on those flights, and the airline to announce before takeoff. That way, those selfish people might take it more seriously.

If a ban applies on all flights, I can see certain passengers just bringing along nuts anyway, despite the ban, on the premise that it's unlikely there'd be an allergic person on their flight.

"Often dairy and wheat are intolerances and won't kill and are not usually air born." as are nuts. And similarly a dairy allergy can be as deadly as a nut allergy.

And it is a myth that people can die purely by being anywhere close to nuts. If this was the case those people wouldn't be on a flight anyway as they wouldn't be able to leave their houses for fear of the fact that somewhere near to them someone might have been in proximity to a nut.

Hysterical overreaction to a non existent risk.

Incidentally, it wouldn't bother me if airlines stopped giving out peanuts, however there is no minimisation of any risk by doing so as, as a PP has already stated, there is no way to legislate for the nut products people have come into contact with prior to boarding said flight. If someone's reaction is so severe that they cannot enter daily life then they're not going to be on a plane or anywhere in public anyway, and do we hear of people confined to their homes because of how dangerously allergic they are? No.

They should be banned

I suffer from a nut allergy. Had an allergic reaction because some tosser couldn't not open a bag of nuts on a four hour flight. Had to take an epi pen. Plane was due to be diverted to Paris and it causes bloody uproar. I had a man 2 seats behind threatening me because he wanted to get home

I want to not die mate !

Pilot was lovely said if we were landing said man would also be ejected

Eventually we got clearance to land earlier in the uk and I was taken off my ambulance

People still muttering about me being a drama queen, in hospital for several days

People's sense of entitlement never ceases to amaze me