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"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention." Trump threads continued [title edited by MNHQ]

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lionheart · 18/08/2017 23:43

I'm paying attention.

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Lweji · 21/08/2017 12:24

I also realised that the US ship in trouble is called the John McCain.

Oh, dear. That's worse than the horse's head on the bed.

Ah, it looks rather like the tanker collided with the US Navy Destroyer. . If GPS manipulation was a factor, I wonder which side it was on.
The same with the previous collision, of a container ship with the other Destroyer.

cozietoesie · 21/08/2017 12:26

Yes. The same McCain - ish. (The ship is actually named after his father and grandfather, I think - both admirals.)

LukeCagesWife · 21/08/2017 12:41

Of all the ships and whatnot to get damaged it is a vessel named after a man/family that Trump currently holds a Trumpcare grudge against.

He managed to slag of McCain at last weeks horrendus press conference, let alone all the coward/PoW stuff and now it is being bought to his attention that the man has a govt funded ship named after him? He must have chocked writing that tweet.

I've had to heavily edit my post - I just realised that the collision is quite serious and people are missing. I do not mean to be flippant about the potential loss of human life.

p.s Dow Jones is dipping again

LukeCagesWife · 21/08/2017 12:43

Oh Lweji I just got the horse head reference, do you think so?
Could well be. I hadn't thought that far ahead just saw his tweet and the name 10mins ago and saw the humour.

Before i saw people were missing obviously.

LukeCagesWife · 21/08/2017 12:50

Ah... first responding tweet is about him saying 'too bad'. I guess he knew the name of the ship by then...

Sorry for being slow - workload is interfering with my watching the Trump Show.

lionheart · 21/08/2017 13:04

I did not know that about the McCain family history.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/08/2017 13:12

@miyridian
Guys, The Onion is no longer satire. We've broken The Onion.

The Onion
The Onion @TheOnion
Trump Blasts Critics Who Judge Neo-Nazi Groups By Most Extreme Members

www.theonion.com/graphic/trump-blasts-critics-who-judge-neo-nazi-groups-mos-56662?utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing

PerkingFaintly · 21/08/2017 13:19

For those who haven't clicked, NorthWestPawsage's pic above is a document from a law suit alleging the Trump campaign failed to declare expenditure on actors paid to attend 45's announcement of running for president, therefore breaching the Federal Election Campaign Act.

But the same link also discusses the lawsuit brought by the event organisers, Gotham, to get the campaign to cough up for any of its services - organising the event as well as arranging for the actors.

More here (sorry it's paywalled): www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/20/even-the-firm-that-hired-actors-to-cheer-trumps-campaign-launch-had-to-wait-to-be-paid/?utm_term=.50405cbfbb19#comments

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/08/2017 13:34

I find this utterly heartbreaking because how can we get past this? Racial prejudice is so systemic and ingrained into people that how do we truly achieve equity when there's such strong unconscious biases, let alone conscious ones?

www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2016/11/30/13765248/donald-trump-race-priming-political-science

TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/08/2017 13:36

Quelle surprise! Angry

Secret Service is out of money to pay agents because of Trump's frequent travel and large family usat.ly/2xinDsM via @USATODAY
twitter.com/jkelly3rd/status/899604706980450304

lionheart · 21/08/2017 13:53

I think there has been some educational work on unconscious bias that has followed the research (workshops; training days and so on).

I don't know how widespread this has become.

It is certainly needed and will hopefully become a part of a public discourse. >> ridiculous optimist

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/08/2017 14:10

Yes Pain it can seem like it will never go away. Sad
I read this book recently and I cannot recommend it enough to anyone who has never experienced racism:
Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race By: Reni Eddo-Lodge
It is a sobering eye-opener to the covert and open racism that most of the white population have little or no real comprehension of and, more importantly, mistakenly believe that they are not guilty of.
I'm sure there is much more of this sort of writing available in the US but sadly it will never be on the school curriculum.

lionheart · 21/08/2017 14:15

Although I did come across this Pain.

www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/05/unconscious-bias-training/525405/

less optimistic

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/08/2017 14:20

Melissa McEwan @Shakestweetz
Re: the big story today about Trump depleting the SecServ's resources, Trump told us from Day One he wouldn't give up his lifestyle.

And I mean literally from Day One. This is a quote from his announcement address.

Because a lot of people said, "He'll never run. Number one, he won't want to give up his lifestyle." They're right about that, but I'm doing it.

Again, I will note that Trump told us everything we needed to know about him in that announcement address, Day One.

www.shakesville.com/2017/01/we-knew-this-was-coming-from-day.html?m=1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/08/2017 14:42

Thanks north, will add that to the list.

lionheart I've taken the Harvard iat before and I've had racial biases that favour white people (which is even sadder as I am not even white). Knowing about your biases and privilege and trying to consciously counteract them is a start though, I think.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/08/2017 14:52

lweji I came across this yesterday and to my shame, realised I didn't really know anything about Iranian history. It's a tweet thread:

Chloi @_chloi
if you'll forgive me for the massive thread, i'd like to talk about an important moment in world history that i wish more people knew about.

mobile.twitter.com/_chloi/status/899073567731597313

Lweji · 21/08/2017 14:54

Secret Service is out of money to pay agents because of Trump's frequent travel and large family usat.ly/2xinDsM via @USATODAY**

So, they're having a Secret Service shut down? Grin

They're all heading home and Trump can find private security from his own pocket. Great news. Wink

lionheart · 21/08/2017 14:59

That's intersting Pain.

I will have a proper look later Smile

implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html

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CaveMum · 21/08/2017 15:01

I'm not surprised that the Secret Service is out of money, wasn't it $3 million per weekend in Mar a Lago?! A large percentage of which went straight into Trump Family coffers to pay hotel bills for the agents.

Lweji · 21/08/2017 15:01

today is the 64 year anniversary of the CIA-backed overthrow of iran's popular and progressive prime minister, mohammad mossadegh.

That's a big reason Iran hates the US, yes.

I don't know a lot about Iran, but have worked with a few Iranian nationals.

It's often mentioned how modern Iran was before the Revolution, but not everyone was happy. Politically and otherwise, as far as I understand it, it was seen as an imposition by foreign powers, and economically, they were being used.

It's similar to Venezuela (and other countries). Chavez was popular initially because he took back control of their oil reserves from foreign companies (i.e. US et al) and used the revenue to improve living conditions for the poorest.
Of course, and not very surprisingly, he also had dictatorial tendencies.

Lweji · 21/08/2017 15:06

Racial prejudice is so systemic and ingrained into people that how do we truly achieve equity when there's such strong unconscious biases, let alone conscious ones?

I think the answer is to make it conscious, even if it pains us. To talk about it. And to mention all the little things where it's present.
We need to force ourselves to think how we act and make choices and present an environment progressively free of prejudice to our children.

(similar to sexism)

Having said that, biologically and psychologically, we are wired to fear what is foreign to our society. So, I don't know if we can completely get rid of prejudice.

Lweji · 21/08/2017 15:11

But the same link also discusses the lawsuit brought by the event organisers, Gotham, to get the campaign to cough up for any of its services - organising the event as well as arranging for the actors.

His campaign was littered with people complaining about him not paying them. OK. It was those girl performers that we heard about. But I'm sure there will have been many more.

I hope the Chinese manufacturers' of his hats got paid in advance. Maybe that's why he thinks trade relationships with China are not fair to the US him.

orlantina · 21/08/2017 15:30

Who gets this money?

"Always costly in manpower and equipment, the president's jaunts to Mar-a-Lago are estimated to cost at least $3 million each, based on a General Accounting Office estimate for similar travel by former President Obama. The Secret Service has spent some $60,000 on golf cart rentals alone this year to protect Trump at both Mar-a-Lago and Bedminster"

Lweji · 21/08/2017 15:32

I'll stop posting after these ones (from that Onion link):

Nation Rallies Around Ronald McDonald Statue That Embodies Country’s True Heritage

Nation Begs Disaffected Youth Gravitating Toward Neo-Nazism To Get High And Play Xbox Instead (that's my excuse to allow DS to spend most of his holidays on the PS4)

Baltimore Pigeons Shocked To Find Beloved Shitting Statues Gone

A: Trump has been consistently in favor of Confederate statues despite a historical antipathy toward losers.

Yes, the Onion have strong feelings about something.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/08/2017 15:33
Hmm

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/347325-idaho-state-rep-shares-conspiracy-theory-blaming-obama-for?amp

Idaho state rep shares conspiracy theory accusing Obama of staging Charlottesville

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