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Christmas hijacked....already?! But Aibu?

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Witheredtits · 16/08/2017 16:10

Hi, after some impartial views as it is a mil post (!). Sadly Mil and I don't really see eye to eye so I don't know if this is clouding my judgement.

Back story, I have 2 children, a 2 yr old and a 3 month old. I try to include mil in all major things - christmas Easter etc and send her pics & invite her over to see dd1 & dd2. I try to have an amicable relationship with her but at times I feel she over steps the mark and crosses my boundaries with the children. I have spoken to oh and he agrees in the main but obviously he is in a tricky situation as it's his mom!

For dd1's first Christmas, mil announced she would be buying our advent calendars from now on, to include Dds so no need to buy her one. I was a bit like, oh, that's a surprise but ok thank you that's kind of you but I will still be buying dd a calendar (as I'm her mom!). We invited Mil to see Santa with us all at a lovely setting. On xmas day itself, she arrived at our house xmas afternoon for lunch and present opening, and without saying a word to us about it, presented dd with her 'first' letter from Santa, sat her on her knees and read it with her. I had already done this with her that morning and so I wasn't expecting it. She announced that she had written to Santa and he had written back etc and left a huge sack of gifts and stocking for her at her house....

I explained to oh after she left that first xmas night that I was unhappy with the letter and her also telling Dd about having loads of gifts 'delivered to hers'. I said Santa should be something he and I do and she had her turn doing this with him and his brothers so it's our turn now. He agreed and said he would talk to her...

So, Dd 2nd xmas, she arranged for us all to go to see a (really shit) Santa, without checking what our plans were first. It was also booked in on the first Saturday in Dec (to make sure it was first regardless of our own plans). On xmas day, she turns up first thing in the morning (unannounced!) and does the letter thing again! And this time she also started opening all of dds gifts (from her) with dd whilst i was out of the room preparing xmas dinner. We hadn't actually started opening ANY gifts at this point. I asked oh why he didn't say no and he said Mil apparently just handed dd a gift and started opening it. Oh said he didn't want to cause a scene by stopping dd as dd wouldn't understand. Mil had declined our invite for xmas lunch but was coming that evening (dd would still have been awake) so there was no reason for her to turn up like that.

I felt very annoyed and hurt tbh. I hadn't given Dd her letter and I felt Mil took that special 'excited face' moment from me. It turns out oh forgot to talk to mil but even so, I don't think she should be writing letters, opening gifts without seeing if we are Ok with that - given that we are the parents!

When oh was small, she and fil did all the Santa stuff and not the gps (she would have been livid!) so it's not like it's normal in their family either or gps to take on the Santa role.

Now, this is where idk if iabu....On Boxing Day (I kid you not) she announced she would be booking the same (shit) Santa visit for dd (and now dd2) this year. Me and oh were non-commital as we have own ideas. I've since told her we won't be doing that but we have planned as a family of 4 to go on a special outing and that this will be dd1&2s main visit to Santa his year as we want it to become a special event. I said we may go to the garden centre santa that we went to the first year again, and that if we do, she is welcome to join us. I have told oh to talk to her and say no more letters, in a kind but firm way.

Mil is used to having everything her own way. Oh is a bit brainwashed as his dad did everything she wanted all of the time and she has tantrums if she doesn't get her own way. As I say, I try to keep her on side as it's easier but I try to stand up for things that I consider very important to me.

She has kicked up a fuss over letters and not coming on the trip and suggested I was being unreasonable to deny her writing letters to the girls and that I should just let her do it - (as well as the advent calendars, gift opening, Santa visit planning and everything else a parent may want to do for their own children

So, iabu or is she over stepping the mark?

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KarateKitten · 16/08/2017 16:15

YANBU. If your OH can't get her to stop, I'd probably have a word myself and say 'these are things I'm really looking forward to. You did them with your son and I will arrange them with my daughter. I'm happy for you to join of course but I want to plan them and enjoy planning them.'

AhhhhThatsBass · 16/08/2017 16:15

YANBU. They are your daughters and as you say, your OH's mother did this with her own children. It's your turn.
Sounds like you need to stand your ground on this one. It would also help if your OH grew a pair and took your side on this. MILs eh? Who'd have 'em. Good luck.

2014newme · 16/08/2017 16:18

It would not bother me. Sorry.

thecatsthecats · 16/08/2017 16:18

I would leave out the bit about her being welcome to join, TBH!

Have other 'special' things with her if you must, but she's proven she can't be trusted. Twice.

But, to soften the blow, you could suggest a Boxing Day event (so she can't pinch anything beforehand).

I can sympathise, as my mum made up some stockings for the toddlers next door as gifts (pinching my bloody stocking!), and I had to wrestle them off her before she delivered filled stockings to the kids two days before Christmas!

OccasionalNachos · 16/08/2017 16:19

I can see why you want to stop this in the future, but I'd write off the last couple of years tbh - dd is too young to have understood letters to/from Santa (surely) so it won't have been spoiled for her.

Keep an eye on things in the run up to Xmas & make sure you get your good Santa visit in first!

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 16/08/2017 16:24

I never had a letter from Santa Sad

PollyFlint · 16/08/2017 16:26

YANBU. She's taking over and it's a bit much. Definitely stepping on your toes. Most grandmas love to make a fuss of the grandkids for Christmas but she's going a bit too far, definitely - your husband should be sticking up for you a lot more and being a lot firmer with her. She's taking away stuff that you should be enjoying with your kids as a parent. Lovely that she enjoys treating your kids and that she's such a devoted grandma, but she could do things that wouldn't detract from your own special moments with them. Pretty sure my mum would check with her DIL first before arranging thing like this and wouldn't just assume it was OK (and wouldn't be offended if the answer was 'actually we were going to do that with them').

Have you posted about this same issue before, around last Christmas? I may be imagining things but the details just ring so many bells with me. Or maybe your MIL has a similarly Santa-obsessed evil twin somewhere...

mickeysminnie · 16/08/2017 16:27

I remember your post from last year. Why did you go to the Santa? It was a massive inconvenience to you but you still went ! If you want her to back off then you need to be more forceful. Tell her she has had her turn with her own children and now it is your turn. Tell her now! No excuses, no exceptions otherwise she will ride roughshod over what you want.
I don't doubt that she will still book a different Santa and try to pressure you into going with her. Stand firm. No is a complete sentence.
Remember if you give into your child's tantrums all the time. They eventually just see it as something that needs to be done in order to get their own way. That is the rock you will perish on!

2014newme · 16/08/2017 16:28

Don't invite her for xmas.

Lolly49 · 16/08/2017 16:31

I had my first letter from Santa this year an absolute P* take from 20 year old Dd but did make me giggle.Santa thought I was seven.

merrygoround51 · 16/08/2017 16:34

I just cannot get why grandparents act like this with grandchildren - they had their 'turn' at being the parent who experiences the magic of christmas and they seem to think they are entitled to do it all again.

I think what you are suggesting is reasonable

sparkleandsunshine · 16/08/2017 16:34

YANBU, tell her straight, and if she doesn't agree then say she can't come for xmas, if she does agree, then say "ok great, because if it happens like that again then I think we will have to just have xmas as our own little family" so she knows that if she agrees but still does it then she won't see them at xmas in future x

Witheredtits · 16/08/2017 16:36

Sorry, this is my first post! I joined mumsnet to post this post! I'm actually glad I'm not the only one dealing with this shit

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MsHarry · 16/08/2017 16:36

My mum and gm used to buy advent calendars for my DDs too. I didn't mind. Sometimes Mum took them to see a Santa too, she wasn't pushy, she just loved to see their delight. I was relieved sometimes that it was one less thing for us to do. Now that my DM has died, I am really glad they did those things with her. Try to be generous, it will be better for you all and if your DC love her then that's a positive in their life that many don't have. If you really can't deal with it then you'll have to move further away !!

ChasedByBees · 16/08/2017 16:37

YANBU at all.

Witheredtits · 16/08/2017 16:45

It's the fact that it's pretty much everything I would want to do as their parent. I can't wait until my daughters get married....she's probably already planning their weddings for them!

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mummmy2017 · 16/08/2017 16:46

Explain to your MIL that you feel she is taking away some of the things you want to be able to do with your child just as she did with her child. as her how she would feel if her MIL did this to her. then shut up say nothing just look her in the eye, the longer you wait for an answer the more she will drop herself in it.
Then tell her what you would love is if she could help your child maybe buy a gift for you and your DH that you don't know about, and this can be her special thing with the children every year, maybe take them to a Christmas Market. If you give as well as take she may back off a bit.

mickeysminnie · 16/08/2017 16:46

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2815470-my-fucking-mil-again

This is the thread I thought was you.

Mrsgingermum · 16/08/2017 16:48

Stick to your plans. MIL knows these so there is no reason for her to be doing her own thing or booking Santa visits. If she does try to book a Santa you need to be firm and remind her of your plans. As for the Santa letters, read you dds their letters as soon as they wake up. Do you leave stockings on the end of their beds? We do and everything climbs into my bed with unopened stockings and we open them all together with cups of tea and toast. That's when I would do the letters. MIL sounds a nightmare.

TheHungryDonkey · 16/08/2017 16:49

YANBU. Mil needs to back off. She's raised her children. These are your family's Christmas traditions now. Downgrade granny to an hour after lunch on Boxing Day 😉

numbmum83 · 16/08/2017 16:50

Could you maybe be firm in saying no visitors til after Xmas dinner so you get to do all the things with your children you would like to do . Open presents and read letters etc.
Don't open the door .

I would also say no to any Santa trips til you've been on whatever you want to organise, after that perhaps let mil take the children just to give her a bit of time with them too.

Witheredtits · 16/08/2017 16:53

Mickey....that link....jeepeers....someone with a mil worse than mine!

Hurrah!!! - didn't think it possible!!!! Thank you!!!

I will read it all later as I'm hoping there will be some good tips in there too.

Thankfully my mil hasn't been able to get involved in christening outfits etc as they aren't christened, and we don't really do Halloween and said that from the off, but I'm sure if we change our mind on that she will be jumping all over it!

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mumsiedarlingrevolta · 16/08/2017 16:53

Mickey I thought that was her as well!!

YADNBU. Hold your ground-you get to decide how Christmas happens for your DC.

Think you need to be very clear and also that unless your OH is on board you will end up with a miserable life Christmas!!

FittonTower · 16/08/2017 16:54

As a kid I remember seeing father Christmas a few different times and a few different places and he also delivered presents to different houses, in different countries on different days (half my family is Spanish so we got presents on the 25th Dec and Jan 6th). Obviously having 2 lots of presents and stuff is always fun when you're a kid but none of the multiple santas or different places for presents made any bit of it "less magical". It just spread Christmas out, got more of my family involved and made it lots more fun.
I know this stuff really upsets some parents but I don't really understand how your mil giving gifts or taking her grandchild to see santa makes you giving gifts or taking your child to see santa any worse? It give joy to the grandparent and grandchild and wanting to stop that so christmas is just the parent's "special thing"seems a bit mean and un-christmassy to me. (although I accept this might be the spanish bit of me talking where christmas is all about the family and not just the parents/child)

Steeley113 · 16/08/2017 16:56

Can't you do both? My mum is a bit like this but I just let her have her fun and do what I want to do as well. My mum does a lot for us in the case of childcare so I think it would be really mean for me to say no!