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Christmas hijacked....already?! But Aibu?

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Witheredtits · 16/08/2017 16:10

Hi, after some impartial views as it is a mil post (!). Sadly Mil and I don't really see eye to eye so I don't know if this is clouding my judgement.

Back story, I have 2 children, a 2 yr old and a 3 month old. I try to include mil in all major things - christmas Easter etc and send her pics & invite her over to see dd1 & dd2. I try to have an amicable relationship with her but at times I feel she over steps the mark and crosses my boundaries with the children. I have spoken to oh and he agrees in the main but obviously he is in a tricky situation as it's his mom!

For dd1's first Christmas, mil announced she would be buying our advent calendars from now on, to include Dds so no need to buy her one. I was a bit like, oh, that's a surprise but ok thank you that's kind of you but I will still be buying dd a calendar (as I'm her mom!). We invited Mil to see Santa with us all at a lovely setting. On xmas day itself, she arrived at our house xmas afternoon for lunch and present opening, and without saying a word to us about it, presented dd with her 'first' letter from Santa, sat her on her knees and read it with her. I had already done this with her that morning and so I wasn't expecting it. She announced that she had written to Santa and he had written back etc and left a huge sack of gifts and stocking for her at her house....

I explained to oh after she left that first xmas night that I was unhappy with the letter and her also telling Dd about having loads of gifts 'delivered to hers'. I said Santa should be something he and I do and she had her turn doing this with him and his brothers so it's our turn now. He agreed and said he would talk to her...

So, Dd 2nd xmas, she arranged for us all to go to see a (really shit) Santa, without checking what our plans were first. It was also booked in on the first Saturday in Dec (to make sure it was first regardless of our own plans). On xmas day, she turns up first thing in the morning (unannounced!) and does the letter thing again! And this time she also started opening all of dds gifts (from her) with dd whilst i was out of the room preparing xmas dinner. We hadn't actually started opening ANY gifts at this point. I asked oh why he didn't say no and he said Mil apparently just handed dd a gift and started opening it. Oh said he didn't want to cause a scene by stopping dd as dd wouldn't understand. Mil had declined our invite for xmas lunch but was coming that evening (dd would still have been awake) so there was no reason for her to turn up like that.

I felt very annoyed and hurt tbh. I hadn't given Dd her letter and I felt Mil took that special 'excited face' moment from me. It turns out oh forgot to talk to mil but even so, I don't think she should be writing letters, opening gifts without seeing if we are Ok with that - given that we are the parents!

When oh was small, she and fil did all the Santa stuff and not the gps (she would have been livid!) so it's not like it's normal in their family either or gps to take on the Santa role.

Now, this is where idk if iabu....On Boxing Day (I kid you not) she announced she would be booking the same (shit) Santa visit for dd (and now dd2) this year. Me and oh were non-commital as we have own ideas. I've since told her we won't be doing that but we have planned as a family of 4 to go on a special outing and that this will be dd1&2s main visit to Santa his year as we want it to become a special event. I said we may go to the garden centre santa that we went to the first year again, and that if we do, she is welcome to join us. I have told oh to talk to her and say no more letters, in a kind but firm way.

Mil is used to having everything her own way. Oh is a bit brainwashed as his dad did everything she wanted all of the time and she has tantrums if she doesn't get her own way. As I say, I try to keep her on side as it's easier but I try to stand up for things that I consider very important to me.

She has kicked up a fuss over letters and not coming on the trip and suggested I was being unreasonable to deny her writing letters to the girls and that I should just let her do it - (as well as the advent calendars, gift opening, Santa visit planning and everything else a parent may want to do for their own children

So, iabu or is she over stepping the mark?

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glitterlips1 · 16/08/2017 17:47

I totally get you. My own mother used to do similar. The letter, the opening up of toys, turning up unannounced on Christmas day etc. She was the same during my pregnancies and during my children's birthday etc. It got so controlling. I wouldn't have minded so much but she did none of this with me as a child so I could never work out why she was so obsessed with stealing those moments from me with my own children. I had countless discussions about it with her and she just didn't care. It only stopped when other grandchildren came along from my siblings.

Onemorestepalong · 16/08/2017 18:05

I appreciate this is an expensive solution, but when mine were 3 I took them to Lapland.

Then explained that was the real Father Christmas and the reason there were lots in different places was due to them being Santa reporters, who work for the real Santa but aren't the Santa, but they make the build up to Christmas fun.

So every year different people took them to see different santas and it didn't matter they were slightly different.

Almost 13 until they accepted the truth (oh other kids told them they were wrong but "they knew").

Don't know how to get round the letter bit, I've never done that so not sure of alternative.

missmollyhadadolly · 16/08/2017 18:09

YABU. You're bring very precious.

So what if she writes her own letter from Santa and comes with you on your trip? So what if she opens her presents to her granddaughter on Christmas Day? She's hardly opening them on Christmas Eve?! So what if she gives her an advent calendar? Your DD can have 2.

Let her take DD to her crappy Santa after you take her to the good Santa?

BanyanTree · 16/08/2017 18:15

I'd buy the biggest f@ck off Advent Calendar like a wooden dolls house, it's 24 boxes carved by some spectacled Bavarian Grandpa and have it bursting with delicious treats and presents. Then when she turned up with her Peppa Pig chocolate advent it would look shit.

As for the letter. Santa has moved on. You need to get onto the website that lets you set up a video personalised to your DD from Santa. Then let DD see it at the beginning of Dec and tell Granny that Santa has already been in touch with her via modern technology.

Witheredtits · 16/08/2017 18:21

Banyan .....pmsl!!!!

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IHateUncleJamie · 16/08/2017 18:28

missmolly But the MIL is (a) booking "crap santa" on the 1st Dec/first weekend of December to get in there first.

Plus she's turned down an invitation to Chrimbo lunch but is turning up unnanounced on Christmas morning! The OP's not being U in thinking that is rude and intrusive. 😳

missmollyhadadolly · 16/08/2017 19:22

Yeah, on those points, I agree, tell MIL that she can only take DD to crappy Santa after they've been to good Santa.

And tell MIL that she must come at Lunch time.

Other than that, the points about the advent calendar, Santa letter, opening presents are all making mountains out of molehills.

Pick your battles OP.

Asalways · 16/08/2017 19:28

None of what you've said about your MIL would bother me one bit. Your dd is lucky to have such an involved grandma

Asalways · 16/08/2017 19:29

'd buy the biggest f@ck off Advent Calendar like a wooden dolls house, it's 24 boxes carved by some spectacled Bavarian Grandpa and have it bursting with delicious treats and presents. Then when she turned up with her Peppa Pig chocolate advent it would look shit

Shock

Do people really enjoy having this kind of combative relationship with their family??

BanyanTree · 17/08/2017 07:42

No they don't enjoy it Asalways. This is the kind of thing people have to revert to when they have been disrespected and undermined by their MILs for a very long time.

Charlottelouisa · 17/08/2017 11:37

To me , this sounds like it's all about your feelings and no one else's.
Why not let your dd have 2 calendars, 2 letters from Santa etc?? I mean what is the actual harm in it.
No one can take away the fact that you are her mum and the way I see it, mil only means well.
The more people that love your Dd's- the better - surely?

This really wouldn't bother me at all.

missmollyhadadolly · 17/08/2017 13:35

OP asked for 'impartial' views but didn't respond to anyone who doesn't agree with her.

Sunnysidegold · 17/08/2017 13:57

I can see where you are coming from.i made a point of saying no big gifts for my ds's first Christmas as he was only four months old. I told mil I was going to get him some rubber ducks for the bath just. Guess what she rocks up with the next week?? I was so cross about That! But was able to say thanks but no thanks I want to pick them myself as it's the first present I'll buy for him. I think she realised her mistake. It's lovely that she wants to be involved but your oh needs to make it clear that there are times for her involvement.he should be the one to explain to her. I like this idea as she has to forgive him for it as he's her lovely son whereas if you did it it could just be you being "selfish dil trying to keep my grandkids from me". Talk with oh about the traditions that are important to you...obviously the letter, and the presents that you've got from Santa. I hate going to see Santa, the queues and fractious children are too much for me so I happily let my mil do that one. Like someone suggested, maybe Christmas jumpers? Or a wee day out with grandma before Christmas - use it to your advantage...yiu could be shopping or wrapping in that time! As for rocking up on the morning, i can totally understand het wanting to see the children open their presents. Could you do your presents in the morning when kids wake up and then suggest she comes for coffee at 11 or something to do her gifts.

I would find it hard to have the conversation about her involvement so I would leave it up to oh.

BiddyPop · 17/08/2017 14:03

It might seem reasonable to have 2 sets of Santa visits and 2 letters etc, when the DC are small. But it does spoil the magic for the parents who have planned it (and feel undermined by those GPs who have already had the chance to do these things when their own DCs were children!).

And as those DCs get older, there is a far greater chance that those DCs will figure out some of the secrets of Christmas at an earlier age, and effectively have the magic spoiled for them, as a result of the over-exposure and the confusion of 2 letters etc. Particularly as their friends are probably only getting 1 letter if they get one, etc - and DCs DO talk to each other about such things!!!!! Xmas Grin

There is a way for DGPs to get involved and be part of the magic, but not to stomp all over it and disrespect the parents role.

picklemepopcorn · 17/08/2017 14:13

I might tell DCs in front of her that grandma is just playing at santa because she loved them so much, mummy and daddy's is the real one.

Wixi · 17/08/2017 14:19

We always have Christmas day just hubby, myself and our DD, who is 7. We then visit or receive visitors Boxing Day and over the Christmas period, but Christmas day is sacrosanct to us. It will change slightly now as my DM died last year and so next Christmas DD will potentially be spending Christmas day alone, so has been invited to us, but in general we stick to Christmas Day us three after that anyone.

thecatsthecats · 17/08/2017 14:41

*I can sympathise, as my mum made up some stockings for the toddlers next door as gifts (pinching my bloody stocking!), and I had to wrestle them off her before she delivered filled stockings to the kids two days before Christmas!

I must be missing something because I do not see a problem with this confused*

Notso - she wanted to personally hand filled stockings to the kids before Christmas, when their own were hanging waiting to be filled on the mantlepiece -and she nicked mine to do it-. I could see it playing out two ways - the kids being really excited about getting stockings from Father Christmas early and spoiling it for the parents, or being confused by getting them early.

I found it especially weird personally, because she always did ours perfectly - we went to midnight mass, and they managed to have us feel the stockings on the way out of the house and fill them in the two minutes or so after we left, so we could rush in first to filled stockings.

IggyAce · 17/08/2017 15:02

My Gran (mums mil) used to take us to the panto each Christmas she made a big thing of booking a box and letting us choose sweets from woolworths, perhaps as the DCs get older suggest this becomes mil Christmas thing. I definitely think parents should arrange Santa visits and letters.

Whatsername17 · 17/08/2017 15:07

My mil tries to muscle in on Christmas plans every year. She always wants to buy the advent calender, the stocking, do the Santa visit, for us to do their Christmas eve activity (and books it for ridiculously late times) and no matter whether we see them for Christmas day breakfast or lunch (we alternate between families) she cries and makes us feel guilty when we leave. My mum buys ridiculous amount of gifts and my dad even tried the 'Santa left these at our house thing once. It is well meant and they just want to be involved but I've started saying no. Christmas eve is our family time so I always book an activity and keep it a secret. I we have a wooden advent calender for DD so I asked mil not to buy one. She reluctantly agreed after joking she'd give it to dd when I wasn't looking and I jokingly replied that I'd made dd give it back. Grin It was a bit of a bluff but it worked. We compromised on stockings by her agreeing to her just putting chocolate in hers (as she does them for everyone and has done since her kids were little). Santa brings stockings in our house. With my parents I just told them directly that Santa is our thing as parents and not to try and one up Santa. I've also talked both sets down from insisting they should buy 'the main present. For me, with mil it only got better when I spoke to her directly. I told her she was denying me the chance to make Christmas special for my kids like she had for hers. She didn't like it but had to accept it.

Witheredtits · 19/08/2017 13:24

Biddy - exactly!!!! It's hard enough to keep it going without others adding their own spin! She has already told her neighbours kids that fc doesn't exist (they are 8 & 9 and she 'assumed' they knew so started talking about having to pretend etc!)

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Witheredtits · 19/08/2017 13:24

Iggy, good idea! Thanks x

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Witheredtits · 19/08/2017 13:26

Charlotte....the harm is that she is trying to stop me having these memories with my girls. She will also drop us in it about santa at some point because she can't keep a sodding secret!

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Witheredtits · 19/08/2017 13:27

Thecats...I can't believe you needed to explain 🤦‍♀️

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Witheredtits · 19/08/2017 13:29

Banyan- exactly! Alsaways....I don't enjoy it at all! Mil has worn me down and stamped all over me and at some point I need to take a look at myself and stand up for myself. She takes over EVERYTHING!

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volovont · 19/08/2017 13:34

YANBU

that would piss me off. I would never of let it go on.

I suggest you book to go away this year for Christmas.