To ask all disabled drivers to do the following?

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We shouldnt have to, of course, but:

EVERY single time you go to a car park- supermarket/shopping centre etc, to complain EVERY single time to the security/help button on the ticket machine/supermarket etc .

You know what Im talking about.

Those bloodyselfish disablist C*s who park in disabled spaces. every time.

just this morning, went early to the superkarket. car park hardly used. very few cars there. a W* in a BMW pulls into the disabled bay next to mine, and JOGS into the coffee shop there . Still there when we came out of supermarket. no badge.

I go back to supermarkt (takes me ages with my mobility issues) to complain and the sucurity guy just shrugs. ''happens all the time. we issue tickets sometimes. nothing we can do. '' I said ''you have noticessaying disabled ONLY.

an elderly person heard our exchange and came up and joined in. he said he has a blue badge and hes fed up when he goes out and all the disabled bays are taken with only half of them with blue badges displayed and he cant get a space. he said he blocked someone in once and they , on coming back to their blocked car, didnt listen to him saying they were breaking the law doing that,(punched him through his open windowdamaged his car , and the police just didnt bother to take him seriously.

anyway.

pleaswe, if you have a blue badge, just complain, EVERY SINGLE TIME till hopefully they get the message.

its not about fines, half of them arent paid anyway, why cant their cars be towed away immediatley,? and pay a much huger fine.

bloody selfish and lazy.

on a slightly smaller note, the parentys/nannies/guardians who park in P&C spaces when their kids arent even in the car, their at school/nursery etc but just cos theyve got a car seat......

boils my piss almost more than enything else.

Disabled and elderly people are NOTHING to the ''powers that be''.

All those with a blue badge will have some form of mobility problem. The problem is some people think this means not being physically able to walk far and it doesn't mean this.

If these spaces are needed for people who don't have a blue badge, what do they do when they're in council car parks?

At doctors surgery yesterday 12 disabled bays all full and yet only two displaying a bb. I was unable to get parked near the door (mobility issues). I pull people up all the time who do this and most are quite shame faced about this but it really needs to become socially unacceptable befote any real change can be achieved. I favour the idea of the large yellow stickers, fines and details made public of repeat offenders to achieve this.

Unhappy, if the doctors surgery is on private land and they don't have clear rules signed otherwise, there is no requirement to display a BB in a disablist parking space. Does the surgery have this signage?

Disabled. What an ironic autocorrect.

Do you think that those 10 people will have a BB that they have chosen not to display? Do you think that if the signage is not sufficiently clear then it is fair game to park there?

Orangebird69 There being no legal requirement to display a Blue Badge when using a disabled space on private land doesn't stop those misusing them from being assholes though.

I'd take a very dim view of a doctor's surgery that didn't attempt to police their use.

Peach If they're being misused then yes, they're assholes. Obviously I don't know what the ailments of those at the surgery were but it may have been possible that some non BB holders needed to be parked nearer the door.

whatsthe, sorry, I don't think my post was clear. If the disabled bays are on private land and there is no signage to say otherwise, you do not need to even be a holder of a BB to park in them, let alone display one.

If the disabled bays are on private land and there is no signage to say otherwise, you do not need to even be a holder of a BB to park in them, let alone display one.
You do however need to be an inconsiderate arse should you choose to use one without actually needing it...

Yes gin, I already said that

I have a disability. I don't need a blue badge because my disability doesn't have an impact on my mobility.

My partner has a different disability and a blue badge. He really needs to park in a blue badge space. There's ALWAYS at least one car with no badge in the blue badge spaces at the supermarket.

I don't consider it my position to judge whether someone needs a blue badge if they have one (although I know they sometimes are abused by non-disabled relatives of the badge holder). But if there's no badge displayed I judge.

Having said that, my partner forgot to display his badge once. He was very tired and in pain, and just didn't remember to put the badge on the dashboard. He got a £50 fine. Unfortunate, but at least someone was actually out there checking I suppose!

The only cases I know of autistic people having blue badges are when it is severe, I would argue in these cases they would not be able to drive themselves to a supermarket and go solo to the coffee shop

I am a bb holder I have ASD 5 of my children have ASD all have blue badges.

I can drive and I'm more than capable of going into a coffee shop unsupervised.
What a twatish thing to say

To the person who said few disabled people can jog. I am disabled, have a blue badge and jog.

My friend has a 14mo autistic son (low functioning). She's had a BB for him as long as I can remember. You don't have to be able to drive to have a BB. My 92 year old, totally NT nana has a BB. Never driven a car in her life.

Shocking isn't it NeedsASockAmnesty?

The ignorance is blinding.

14yo, not 14mo.

Of course another reason for BB spaces (and this applies even more for P&C spaces) is not just the mobility aspect, although it's the most obvious.

It's also a recognition that people with wheelchairs (or parents needing to move a baby from a car seat to a pushchair) need the extra space around the car to manoeuvre safely.

Speaking for our situation, MrsLHs and I would happily use BB spaces at the opposite end of the car park. MrsLH doesn't need to be near. But she does need enough space to get the door open fully and guide a powerchair or scooter down the side.

The diametrically opposed evolution of cars and parking spaces doesn't help ....

I'm getting quite worried now, we've been given permission by the supermarket to park in a disabled bay because they know my mum's issues, although if she's having a rare ok-ish day then I will just park it in one of the p and c spaces instead so she can at least get in/out ok.

GahBuggerIt If you have been given permission. Then do so. I can't remember if you said you had a BB badge or applied but either way apply/apply again. You may be luckier this time. (for want of a better word!).

Orange, you didn't seem to show any empathy for Unhappy, but instead launched into quibbling over the technical legal aspects of parking on private land.

You might think you were being helpful but it sure doesn't come across well.

To the person who said few disabled people can jog. I am disabled, have a blue badge and jog

You should be fine Potterhead . As long as you never jog into the supermarket that is.

But she does need enough space to get the door open fully and guide a powerchair or scooter down the side.

I've seen that too Lurking. I mainly online shop (thank goodness!) but when I've had to nip in to our store. They have the BB spaces nearest. Then the taxi drop off point next to the spaces. A car parked a couple of spaces away from us and they'd done so in order to have enough room to get the wheelchair out etc for the passenger.

Thanks Pixies, its Mum thats the one with the issues and this thread has made me decide to speak to Mum again about going through the process, I'll help her any way I can.

It was the supermarket customer service lady that grabbed me one day and said they notice Mum struggling from the other end of the car park where I used to park to minimise anyone getting next to us (long story that would out me but I cant drop her off at the entrance to wait for me), so if it helped we could park in a disabled bay and just let them know. To be fair there are usually lots of spaces as we go early but I do still feel a bit uncomfortable. but then when I see Mum being able to get out of the car without looking like Origami at the end of it and only having to walk a few steps before shes off the concrete...........yes Im going to help her apply for a BB, I dont think we'll get anywhere though as there are people on this thread who havent got one who also should clearly have one but we'll give it a go (well if she agrees that is!).

whatsthe, I'm not massively concerned about how you think I come across. I just feel there's a lot of misinformation on here that in turn misdirects where the anger needs to be - I personally think that in private parking it should be a legal requirement to display a BB in the majority of accessible bays. But I do think there should be some bays that are available to those that need proximity in unexpected/occasional circumstances but don't hold a badge.

There's the whole other issue of BB abuse and fraud. It was the NFAs suggestion a few years ago that 20% of the some 2.5m BB in circulation at the time were either abused or frauduelent. That's what needs to be addressed imo. Because that's an arsehole behaviour as well as being illegal. Parking in a disabled bay on private land without displaying or having to hold a BB is just arsehole behaviour.

It does seem to be very much were you live. When I got my first badge I applied on line and it was granted which surprised me enormously as there was no checking involved.

When it came up for renewal I had to go for an assessment but the woman who assessed me was lovely and told me before I left that she would be recommending me for a badge.