To ask all disabled drivers to do the following?

[QuiQuaiQuod]

We shouldnt have to, of course, but:

EVERY single time you go to a car park- supermarket/shopping centre etc, to complain EVERY single time to the security/help button on the ticket machine/supermarket etc .

You know what Im talking about.

Those bloodyselfish disablist C*s who park in disabled spaces. every time.

just this morning, went early to the superkarket. car park hardly used. very few cars there. a W* in a BMW pulls into the disabled bay next to mine, and JOGS into the coffee shop there . Still there when we came out of supermarket. no badge.

I go back to supermarkt (takes me ages with my mobility issues) to complain and the sucurity guy just shrugs. ''happens all the time. we issue tickets sometimes. nothing we can do. '' I said ''you have noticessaying disabled ONLY.

an elderly person heard our exchange and came up and joined in. he said he has a blue badge and hes fed up when he goes out and all the disabled bays are taken with only half of them with blue badges displayed and he cant get a space. he said he blocked someone in once and they , on coming back to their blocked car, didnt listen to him saying they were breaking the law doing that,(punched him through his open windowdamaged his car , and the police just didnt bother to take him seriously.

anyway.

pleaswe, if you have a blue badge, just complain, EVERY SINGLE TIME till hopefully they get the message.

its not about fines, half of them arent paid anyway, why cant their cars be towed away immediatley,? and pay a much huger fine.

bloody selfish and lazy.

on a slightly smaller note, the parentys/nannies/guardians who park in P&C spaces when their kids arent even in the car, their at school/nursery etc but just cos theyve got a car seat......

boils my piss almost more than enything else.

Disabled and elderly people are NOTHING to the ''powers that be''.

How hard the bb application is depends on your area - it isn't standardised. So those who are disabled but denied pip/dla who assume they won't get one - send in a form and have a go. They might be awkward, but there's a chance they might not too.

I was in the loooong pip backlog when I applied for my initial bb. I got it with no medical, just a letter from my doctor and an application form. I have one of the good councils, but until you try you don't know that you don't.

Obviously not applicable to those who have tried and faced awkward buggers :(

Is it that we're wired to think a disability has to be physical for the user to warrant a disabled bay?

One of our local supermarkets are laid out in a way that there's disabled bays round the back of the supermarket where the general public won't think to park because the lesser used entrance is there

Thanks to this thread I've discovered that I would be eligible for a BB from my local council due to my (recent) PIP award.

Thank you OP

DD has a blue badge, she could also give Bolt a run for his money.

cleanlaundry, not sure if it's about wiring as such - just that the symbol for the actual spaces is a wheelchair bound person..and that subconsciously sticks iyswim.

OP, YANBU. Abuse of disabled spaces needs to be seen as a complete no-no.

Some points: being disabled and being entitled to a BB are not the same thing. Lots of disabled people do not need a BB and are not entitled to one. Deaf people, fir example (unless coupled with additional complexities).

To get a BB there has to be a practical reason why parking close to the destination is necessary, or why the additional width is necessary. Many wheelchair users can happily travel long distances at speed, but need the size and space of a BB space to transfer from car to wheelchair.

People with that condition where they cannot be exposed to cold air can drive, jog and drink coffee, but can be entitled to a BB to enable them to keep exposure to cold air to the minimum.

Who are all these BB / disabled space / Parent and Child vigilantes? It's almost as though they camp on the spot waiting to catch someone out.
It's almost like they are driving around trying to park, but finding the disabled spaces they need, filled by cars without blue badges.

Not all disabilities are visible but blue badges are.

I have a Blue Badge and a 2yr old. You can't always see my disability until I start walking. Ohhhhhhhhhh the abuse I get!!!!!!!!!

Once had an old man point his walking stick in my face and whack my car with it! He saw I had a child and stereotyped me!

I was fucking LIVID!!!!!!

YANBU - my Mum was disabled, and had a blue badge and I lost count how many times we had to drop her at the door of Asda and park far away because all the disabled spaces were taken up by boy racers in souped up cars (without blue badges) getting cash from the cash machines. I was the ultimate super grass and challenged the security there about it many times but they usually said there's nothing they can do. 😡😡.

Is it that we're wired to think a disability has to be physical for the user to warrant a disabled bay?

Yes. You only need to have seen some of the deleted comments to see that's exactly how some judgey people are wired. Or on other threads when people ask stupid questions like 'well if they're that disabled how do they then manage to walk around the store?' or the several deleted ones on this thread.

I don't look disabled half the time, I also refuse to have a walking stick/crutch out of sheer stubbornness. So I probably don't look disabled enough to need one to some folk. If I drove which I don't, I'd qualify for a BB no problem.

Once had an old man point his walking stick in my face and whack my car with it! He saw I had a child and stereotyped me!

JustDontGetItAtAll

AwayWith: you don't have to drive or own a car to have a Blue Badge.

Justdontgetitatall apparently you can't be a mum and be disabled. The amount of abuse I get when parking in a BB bay then trying to get my 3 and 7yr old out is ridiculous.
Aldi said they couldn't do anything when I pointed out people parking in the disabled bays.

you don't have to drive or own a car to have a Blue Badge.

I'm aware of that but two things. 1) they're not as easy to get just because Sally told Tim that Joan from down the road only has a gammy foot and got one. 2). The comments people were taking offence at were comments like that. That if a person didnt have a BB. Then it's more likely they're not disabled. Or if they can jog, they probably aren't too. (would people think a paralympian amputee is any less disabled just because they can sprint?)

My comment got deleted because I'd quoted an earlier deleted post when challenging this but I'd given two examples. My Grandma is 81, has had a BB badge and has had two knee replacements. When it came to renewal they decided she no longer qualified. My Dad had a BB badge. Post heart attack survivor. COPD & Angina. At his renewal. They decided he no longer qualified too.

I'm always amaxed on mumsnet when people try to justify abuse of disabled spaces. I can only assume they are nor disabled or have family who are and NEED these spaces.

BB spaces are for people with BBs.

I'm always amaxed on mumsnet when people try to justify abuse of disabled spaces

No-one is justifying it.

They're calling out disablist comments. Quite different!

Blue Badges aren't issued for any disability, only the ones that somehow restrict your mobility (at least in my area).

Blue Badges aren't issued for any disability, only the ones that somehow restrict your mobility

In what sense? Physically? Because whilst that would apply to me. It wouldn't apply to my son. If I was to apply for one for my DS. I'd be applying to keep him safe. Not because his mobility is restricted. Seems a bit discriminatory to me.

His lack of ability to keep himself safe impacts his mobility

Thankyou zzzzz. That's what I'm trying to explain to others. But you've done so much more succinctly than me!

People who can run from a disabled bay, don't need to park there

My son can run from there. I still need to keep him safe.

Without getting into who can do what with autism, surely it's easiest to agree to disagree

Not really. I always think it's best to challenge such widely ignorant generalisations.

The spaces are for people with mobility problems.

It's simpler to say that the spaces are there for Blue Badge holders.

I did elaborate, away.