To think people are being a bit harsh?

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www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/family-mum-daddy-dad-mummy-10978802

This is an article in today's mirror that came up in my twitter feed and every single comment is against them so far. I don't agree with forcing your ideals on a child but surely their friends and family would have said something if this is so wrong?

Ffs why can't parents raise their children and not have to shout about if i was so confused reading that article my head was spinning and Star -cloud they need a slap for that alone. Raise your kid how you want but shurrup about it

Even very young children are often proud to 'be' a boy or a girl.
Telling them they are a 'person' and avoiding their gender/sex whatever is the bloody right way to describe it, is just ridiculous.
A very small percentage of children have gender identity issues but now we are supposed to tread carefully and not assume just in case a child we have just may be in that small percentage
I think we would probably create more confusion for more children by avoiding acknowledging their birth gender.
Only an idiot would stop a child playing with any toys based on gender.

Som of the most ridiculous, laughable and self absorbed behaviour and parenting I have ever seen.

Nothing to say. 🙄

What a load of old shit. My nephew wanted a dolls buggy when he was little and my sister bought him one, that was forty years ago and no one batted an eyelid. We all know that there is way too much gendering of toys but it's a successful marketing strategy that isn't going away any time soon. But that child is a boy no matter what nonsense his parents spout, hopefully he won't suffer too much from his upbringing.

I change my sons species for him often... monkey bum, rat bag, snot box, care bear, little piggy, weirdo

Another couple who think they are so openminded and special by letting their son play with dolls...

It is not special.it is normal

My DS lived by a girl's name, he actually was a girl in his mind. For a whole year (3_4). His excellent key worker said it was a normal part of child development to experiment with gender.

But for some people, being normal is not good enough. They have to believe they are special. It only annoys me if it makes the papers...attention seeking behaviour.

It is totally normal for toddlers to experiment with being a girl/boy/cat these parents fixate on something to try and make them special while saying they are trying to normalise it.

Proof positive that DSs are Otherkin.

Before anybody calls SS, these were new dog bowls, freshly washed, awaiting the arrival of DHound. DSs just test drove them.

Pacific

pacific that's brilliant!

Well for a start, why not give him a neutral name, not Star Cloud. He's only 4 ffs, all kids grow and earn. I'm sure once he's at school he'll make his own mind up who he is.

Well if they gave SC a nice neutral name then they would be dull and ordinary so star -cloud makes them unique and indidual and speshial and everybody will look at their family its all attemtion seeking nonsense

@PacificDogwod I think I might start feeding DH and DS like this in the new house. They make enough mess and DS would love it!

Star-Cloud is going to grow up with more issues than his parents. What they are doing isn't gender neutral at all, it is simply forcing and emphasising gender roles and stereotypes both in how they treat their child and how they themselves act, just rather than it being one or the other, it's both at the same time. An obsession with gender does not a healthy child make, nor will courting the press to show off how liberal and free thinking they are. Hard-of-thinking would be a more apt description. Denying Star-Clouds biological reality and focusing on gender is ill advised and not going to help the child with their identity in the long run. All they will have done is make their child a target for bullies, you get the feeling they would be very disappointed should star-cloud turn into a football mad 'mans man' come puberty.

I hate people like this for setting back Women's rights movements by highlighting Gender as a big deal. You can't be Gender fluid, if Gender is merely a construct of a Patriarchal Society.

Aside from that, many years ago, we adopted a Kitten that was though to be a Girl, when we took her to get spade, it turned out she was a he. We had already given her/him a Gender neutral name, little did we know that we were groundbreakers.

My gut feeling is they wanted a daughter.

Who knows. Maybe he'll grow up to be most assertive in his gender, maybe he'll be 'gender neutral' like his parents but happy, or maybe he'll be all messed up. Who are we to be able to decide what the future will tell.

I personally don't have any issue with any parents raising their kids to be themselves and confident in their boots, whatever that is. However, I think the risk is when this supposed choice is being shouted left right and centre, so that in reality, what is supposed to be 'choice' because 'expectation'.

I hope he grows up a happy person!

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What a nasty, selfish couple.

When I was growing up, in the 70s, the mother of one of my friend left her husband and took on a relationship with a woman who after some time moved in with her. At the time, it resulted in a lot of tail wagging, people judging and a teacher even called social services to investigate.

She was told she was selfish, that she was giving her daughter a false sense of what families were about, that she would grow up confused with her sexuality etc...

As it happened, whereas there was a bit of nasty spiteful side of her before her parent split, she became a lovely girl afterwards and we grew closer. She finished her studies with no trouble and went on to university. She studies sociology and started dating a guy in her second year.

She went on to have a very good job working for a global company, married a man she met at work in her early 30s and had two children. She is the most 'normal' person you can imagine. She is very close to her mum and SM but isn't in touch with her dad any more.

Seems all normal now, but it certainly wasn't at the time and many people thought she would grow up to become a very disturbed adult. If anything, she grew up confident and resilient, hence doing very well with her life.