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To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

817 replies

MyheartbelongstoG · 11/08/2017 16:10

Just that really.

OP posts:
hugetha · 08/06/2018 17:46

Yabu! It’s a completely pragmatic thing to do if you have the option ... sounds like someone is just a little envious!

Goldilocks3Bears · 08/06/2018 17:48

Not getting stuck into the Leave/Remain politics but from a practical viewpoint, here are my reasons for applying for a BRITISH passport when the new 'settled status' portal takes effect in the later part of the year:

I've lived here nearly 30 years, this is my home, where I have my friends, my work, etc. I have paid my tax and never claimed any benefits, with the exception of a six month period where I had to claim JSA following redundancy and this was a requirement from my mortgage protection insurance.

I hold a mortgage, savings, pensions and investments all tied up in the UK banking system. I feel that if I were NOT to become British and the country changes policies on some of these aspects after Brexit, then I could lose my life savings. Also, by the time I retire, I will have been in the UK job market for 46 years and feel I am entitled to claim the state pension (if there's any).

I also fear that I'd be disadvantaged for the NHS and other services (before you jump down my throat for sponging - I have and continue to, pay my tax)

My children are British and hold dual nationality now, as a result of Brexit. I don't think this is 'cheeky', I think I give them the best options for the future in terms of their global mobility and making their own choices as adults. The only reason they did not hold dual before, was because it wasn't possible until a few years back because my country of origin did not allow dual previously. And that goes for me too. The reason I did not pursue a GB passport before is that I'd have had to give up my original nationality.

If I was to be asked to leave after Brexit, my children would go with me and not see their British father as we are no longer married. So two British children by birth and upbringing, would effectively be turfed out - that doesn't seem right?!

I am sorry the chat has gotten so racially biased. I am whiter than white myself but I am ashamed and saddened to say for the first time in all the years of being here, I too have seen an increase in xenophobic remarks in recent years.

ZingerTowerAddict · 08/06/2018 18:02

Those born abroad to an Irish born parent need to send in their Irish born parent's long form birth certificate or Irish born parent's civil marriage certificate. The Irish Embassy is now sending out an additional sheet with the application form.

TeknoGran · 08/06/2018 18:18

Let’s see what the majority want and if we don’t like it we will then bully and hound them and ask them again and again and again until we get the answer we want. If you are eligible for an Irish passport then there is no shame in getting one. I got mine 10 years ago but that was for another reason

Strongmummy · 08/06/2018 18:50

@tekno, so you’re a leaver with the privilege of being able to take advantage of the EU post Brexit. How very convenient for you.

Littlenic73 · 08/06/2018 18:53

We are all aiming to go dual nationality in our family. We like to keep our options open. Not Irish though, my DH is Polish. We never saw any benefit to the kids having 2 passports before but we do now. It would be nice to all be in the same line at passport control. Pre 1994 we were in separate queues and it was irritating, we don't want to go back to that, or the 9 hour border queues or the rest of it. We also want the option of better choice of universities for our children, if they choose to take it.

SevenStones · 08/06/2018 18:53

I think it's cheeky if you voted Leave and get an Irish Passport as a result of Brexit! But not otherwise.

Sozzler · 08/06/2018 18:56

I was born in Ireland and my Father's side of the family are all Irish. Despite living in the UK since I was 3 years old I have always thought of myself as predominantly Irish and have been back to visit on many occasions. I didn't feel I needed an Irish passport to confirm this but with Brexit I decided it was a good time to apply for one for me and my children. I don't think it's cheeky if you are entitled to one and I am really happy to have finally got ours, even if it was Brexit that gave me the kick up the bum to finally get round to doing it.

Shmithecat · 08/06/2018 19:03

I'm cheeky then 🤷‍♀️. I voted leave and am applying for my Irish passport.

Sparklyglitter · 08/06/2018 19:35

God do people have nothing better to do than be nasty? It doesn’t sound to me like the question is directed at everyone that is doing it or perhaps not got around to it thus far...more that some people are scratching around for Irish heritage, when previously they couldn’t have given a damn about the place!
Personally I don’t give a damn about whether people want an Irish passport or not, but I think it is incredibly sad that “SOME” people on here can’t manage to have a civil discussion! Very SAD! Hmm And perhaps it is they that should get a grip!

Cattenberg · 08/06/2018 19:57

If you voted for Brexit and are applying/have applied for another EU passport, how do you justify it to yourself? If you think EU citizenship rights are worth having, why did you vote for Brexit? Or if you think they're not, why bother applying for another passport?

Libbie001 · 08/06/2018 20:12

After Brexit I would apply for an Irish passport if I could.

Ravenesque · 08/06/2018 20:16

I can't imagine voting leave then applying for an Irish or any other European passport. How does a mind make that leap?! But, people can be odd, so cheeky or not, things will happen that are hypocritical and all one can do it boggle and then move on from it.

I didn't vote leave and am getting the Irish passport I'm entitled to (both parents Irish), because I want to remain at least some of my EU citizenship.

Wendycastle · 08/06/2018 20:25

I'm genuinely interested - for those that admitted it, if you voted leave why are you getting an Irish passport?

SoonToBeMumOfOne · 08/06/2018 20:48

If you've naturalised in NI could you apply for an Irish passport. I'm tempted to move over there!

pollymere · 08/06/2018 21:22

I was advised twenty years ago to get a British passport as an Irish one would cause grief when travelling. Now I'm considering an Irish one so I am able to work in th EU. I don't think that's cheeky, just sensible.

Shmithecat · 08/06/2018 22:10

Wendycastle

I'm genuinely interested - for those that admitted it, if you voted leave why are you getting an Irish passport?

Personally for me, it's a bit of insurance in case it all goes tits up after Brexit. I'm an optimist but like to have a plan B. I also own a property in another European country.

Sarahrellyboo1987 · 08/06/2018 22:48

Totally agree

SoonToBeMumOfOne · 08/06/2018 22:52

@Shmithecat it's alright for you, not all us have not all of us have such 'insurance'

Strongmummy · 08/06/2018 23:07

@Shmithecat I’m confused, you were so sure about the EU being awful for this country that you voted to leave, but then hedged your bets. You’re happy to throw this country into massive economic uncertainty, potentially ruin careers, take jobs, ruin businesses, on the basis you have an insurance policy. That’s just unkind

fatimashortbread · 08/06/2018 23:26

Brexit is so appalling that I would do anything to keep my EU citizenship. Unfortunately my family are ‘pure-bred’ Brits so no relief or external passports for me or my family. Fortunately me and the family have just renewed our EU burgundy passwords and maybe we will be back in before I have to get the desperate blue version so beloved by Brexiteers

Buteo · 08/06/2018 23:41

And here we have Schrödinger‘s Leavers - wanting to be out of the EU yet simultaneously retaining the benefits of being an EU citizen.

Are you Nigel Lawson?

Littlenic73 · 08/06/2018 23:57

Nigel Lawson applied for an Irish passport

SevenStones · 09/06/2018 01:09

The mentality behind voting Leave but knowing you'll be fine either way and actively making sure you're still able to carry on your life within the EU whether it's with a passport or residency or whatever is the one that angers me the most.

Yeah I'll vote for it, but I'm all right.

The likes of Nigel Lawson et al are all cut from the same selfish, cuntish cloth.

Teacher22 · 09/06/2018 06:10

‘Just have another referendum until you have the right answer.’

The EU responded to the Italian populist vote with the same words more or less.

That is why people voted for Brexit.

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