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To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

817 replies

MyheartbelongstoG · 11/08/2017 16:10

Just that really.

OP posts:
Strongmummy · 07/06/2018 18:24

@myheart - there already are more people with Irish heritage outside of Ireland than in it. There was something called the diaspora 🙄

Myheartbelongsto · 07/06/2018 18:24

Not blaming anyone. It is what it is.

A4710Rider · 07/06/2018 18:25

Another viewpoint from the working class was/is. Our lives are rubbish, the poverty is grinding and yet our government pay £8 and a half billion pounds into the EU so that 4 million people can come to the UK and use our schools, NHS and services that were already overstretched to begin with.....

EU fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

Strongmummy · 07/06/2018 18:26

@rider so you believed what was written on that bus.

lostinsunshine · 07/06/2018 18:26

This Mrs Smyth couldn't afford 4 buy to lets. Odd idea of what middle class is. I repeat - don't take my daughter's rights off her. Or I will get them back via my Irish mum.

Strongmummy · 07/06/2018 18:27

There is no doubt in my mind that remainers did a piss poor job at convincing people to stay. Those people are going to be more disenfranchised and worse hit by Brexit

A4710Rider · 07/06/2018 18:28

This Mrs Smyth couldn't afford 4 buy to lets. Odd idea of what middle class is

It's one, small example.

Repeat - don't take my daughter's rights off her. Or I will get them back via my Irish mum

You do what you think is best. It's none of my business.

keyboardkate · 07/06/2018 18:28

Everyone is working class. Unless you are the JRsmug type who inherited their wealth, unearned.

Some earn a lot more than others, but most of us work to live, some earn more, some earn less.

The obsession with class is astounding. But I suppose that may be because many aspire to go up the ladder to the bigger house, nicer car and so on. Doesn't make you any different. God Almighty. What exactly is Middle Class anyway?

This IMV will not end well for anyone except the elites who can fall back on family wealth while the rest of us suffer on with the fallout.

We will just have to wait and see what might happen, but it is looking as flaky as dandruff at the moment.

Myheartbelongsto · 07/06/2018 18:30

I wonder how many of those with Irish heritage have actually been here or know anything about Irish history etc.

If you did you'd be a little ashamed to be British.

I'm sure a few of you will be on Google now searching a few facts to slap me in the chops with.

I lived in UK for 19 years. Much of that time I was told to fuck off back home.

It's gas how so many of you now want an Irish passport.

A4710Rider · 07/06/2018 18:31

Those people are going to be more disenfranchised and worse hit by Brexit

Not really. There's a chance, albeit very small, that we may take more notice of them, put more money into their areas, improve their services, building some more schools.

People with practically fuck all will still have practically fuck all. Mrs Smyth may have to actually employ a British plumber one day.

A4710Rider · 07/06/2018 18:31

Everyone is working class

Poppycock.

A4710Rider · 07/06/2018 18:33

If you did you'd be a little ashamed to be British

Can I amend this for you.

If you did'nt you'd be a little ashamed of what the ruling classes of England did to the people of Ireland.

Myheartbelongsto · 07/06/2018 18:33

Everyone is working class.

You can't believe this surely.

keyboardkate · 07/06/2018 18:33

Why is it poppycock?

Apart from those who have inherited wealth we are all working. Unless you won the lotto or something.

MimpiDreams · 07/06/2018 18:34

According to the FMB, wages for skilled tradesmen have been increasing for years. The under cutting of wages is another brexit myth.

lostinsunshine · 07/06/2018 18:34

I know my Irish history, thanks. What with being a catholic in NE England with an Irish Mum.

Bananagio · 07/06/2018 18:36

A4710Rider you don’t half spout some crap about Italy. I was sitting at home in Rome the other day half watching the news showing the latest political update a few days after the new government was formed and half reading some posts from the same day from you telling us that the government had been vetoed by the EU. Totally out of date nonsense interpretation of an execution of constitutional responsibility by the Italian president.

Well let me tell you this, Southern Europe is on it's knees financially and has been and is being swamped with Africa migrants.

Ignoring the dog whistle comment re swamp and African migrants, yes we are in the middle of a crisis dealing with a pretty overwhelming number of migrants from Africa but seeing as Italy will still be near the African coast even if we were to leave the EU and considering that knowledge of the participation or not of the 4 freedoms in Europe would probably not register much when someone is prepared to make that deadly journey in a dinghy I really can’t see that leaving the EU would solve that issue. The migrant crisis, the drownings etc have been happening on a large scale way before the anglophone press decided to report on it. And way before head tilting faux concern for Southern Europe became another means of bashing the EU with for a certain type of Brexiteer. And since the UK’s response to helping Italy with this has been beyond woeful (as has the response of certain Eastern European countries) I can’t imagine that outside the EU Italy would suddenly find itself in a stronger place. Luckily even the current government, who I am no fan of, seem to see that they need to push for change from within the EU and despite the ‘Italy will be the next to leave’ battle cry from certain Brexiteers there is still no real push to leave here.

All I care about is how fucking great the EU is and how shit we are

Why on earth are people who are in favour of the EU portrayed so often as being blind to its faults and enthusiastically embracing anything that comes out of Brussels? It’s perfectly possibly to be not a fan of the Euro, to feel Italy hasn’t benefitted from the Euro as Germany have, to be angry at the lack of assistance with migrants while at the same time being wholeheartedly a supporter of the European Union despite this.

blackteasplease · 07/06/2018 18:37

Well my quarter Italian has come in v useful and handily can be passed down generations forever.

Not sorry at all as I didn't vote for this nonsense.

keyboardkate · 07/06/2018 18:37

So if we are not all working class, you know, working for a living, define the other Classes that the British seem to be so obsessed with for me please? Or indeed define "working class" from your perspective.

Such fkn snobbery, but I am not one bit surprised.

Bombardier25966 · 07/06/2018 18:37

@A4710Rider, please look at the founders of full facts before quoting it as a reliable source of information. It is anything but.

Myheartbelongsto · 07/06/2018 18:38

What in the name of jaysus does being Catholic in NE England have to do with being Irish.

That wasn't really a question.

LoveInTokyo · 07/06/2018 18:38

Not really. There's a chance, albeit very small, that we may take more notice of them, put more money into their areas, improve their services, building some more schools.

With what? Where is the money coming from? From the taxes paid by the middle classes that you want to drag down into the shit with you?

People with practically fuck all will still have practically fuck all.

So Brexit won’t have benefited them in any way then.

Mrs Smyth may have to actually employ a British plumber one day.

I don’t care what kind of passport my plumber has as long as they show up on time, do a good job and don’t absolutely fleece me.

A4710Rider · 07/06/2018 18:38

the under cutting of wages is another brexit myth

A polish plumbing company, living in a 3 bedroomed house, employing 6 people can undercut a UK company with 6 employees all living in different houses.

It's quite simple.

Myheartbelongsto · 07/06/2018 18:40

Please start your own thread about brexit.

LoveInTokyo · 07/06/2018 18:41

“It's quite simple.”

No, I think you are the one who is quite simple.

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