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AIBU?

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To find FIL very annoying? Who IBU?

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idlibfest · 11/08/2017 15:57

FIL is very controlling about food. When we go to stay with PILs over the holidays he cooks everything, and decides all meals. This has more positives than negatives as he is actually a good cook and it is a pleasure to eat his food most of the time.

Part of his being controlling about food is that he will never throw food away, even past the point it has gone off or after he has reheated rice or chicken five times. Also most of the things he makes are quite exotic and so the DCs (all under 3) do not always want to eat them. He also does it within his own timing, so would think nothing of serving dinner at 10pm at night after the DC should be in bed.

In these situations, I make something else that I know they like and will eat (pesto pasta etc) But he cannot stand anyone else in the kitchen. So while I am doing it he is standing over me asking what I am doing, why I am not making the pasta al denté, why my DC will not eat his food, suggesting ridiculous changes to the dish I am making, taking on a consulting role, and talking to me in a patronising way as if I think what I am making is a gourmet meal. Does that make sense?

I say over and over again that this is just something simple for the DC to eat because they are fussy about food and need to eat at a regular time - this is not something I need advice on or something I think needs to be entered into master chef, I am just putting it together because the DC need to eat.

But he cannot accept this. Yesterday DD2 asked for an omelette with ham at 5pm. The other two DC agreed they would eat it too so I made a big one and served them all with some tomatoes and salad at 5pm. FIL was hanging around as usual critiquing things, asking why I wasn't putting some chilli in the omelette... why I wasn't doing this and that.

Once DCs were in bed and FIL was serving up steak at 10pm he insisted on bringing out the cold, flabby, gnawed ends of the remaining omelette I made at 5pm as the "piece de resistance" (or whatever it's called) then serving everyone a tiny piece. He then told me in front of everyone that I "should have added chilli," and I should learn that for "next time."

I told him, and everyone, as I always do, that this was a meal for the DC earlier and I never intended everyone to eat it at dinner time, and then I am met with shock from everyone at the thought that I was considering throwing away the remaining omelette that the DC didn't eat.

The choice seems to be that whatever is made in the kitchen is FIL's property to serve up/ridicule/eat/critique. Even if it has an entirely different purpose.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Beachturtle · 11/08/2017 15:59

He sounds incredibly tedious. What does your DH say? And does your DH get the same treatment when he cooks the kids tea?

Ropsleybunny · 11/08/2017 16:01

There is absolutely no way I would stay with someone like that.

ImperialBlether · 11/08/2017 16:02

Oh I couldn't put up with that! He hasn't got a clue, has he?

Do you have to travel far to get there? You couldn't take the kids out for a meal, could you?

Migraleve · 11/08/2017 16:02

YANBU

I couldn't stay in that situation

Nocabbageinmyeye · 11/08/2017 16:03

He sounds painful, how have you resisted the urge to slap the steak off his cheek while telling him to fuck off

rabbitcakes · 11/08/2017 16:03

I'd be eating my own eyes with a spoon before I stayed there again.

Or be arrested for murder.

One or the other.

TheSnorkMaidenReturns · 11/08/2017 16:04

He sounds really rude & controlling.

Bemusedandpuzzled · 11/08/2017 16:05

Oh Goooood, I feel your pain. My MIL is the same. It drives me nuts.

Brace yourself, because you're about to get a whole ton of totally useless advice from those who assume that your FIL is normal and will listen to reason. In fact, nothing on earth will stop him behaving like this short of you losing your temper and really putting your foot down. Because if he were able to pick up on socially appropriate hints, body language, polite statements that the advice is unhelpful or anything of that kind, he would already have done so. He is basically using the kitchen as a tool to patronise and belittle you, and you don't need to feel ANY guilt about pushing back, hard.

Newyearnewbrain · 11/08/2017 16:05

What rabbit said ^

CoughLaughFart · 11/08/2017 16:06

Option one - tell him 'I love your food, but you know how fussy kids can be. Hopefully when they get a bit older they'll be a bit more adventurous'.

Option two - assuming you've already tried variants on option one, get blunt and say 'For heaven's sake, they're not even three - of course I'm not going to put chilli in the bloody omelette! And if you've already decided it'll taste awful why the sodding hell are you making us eat it?!'

It won't go down well, but he won't forget it either.

If that's too much, option three is make the kids sandwiches. There's not a lot he can criticise about a sandwich.

Bemusedandpuzzled · 11/08/2017 16:06

Also, to ask the classic question: where the hell is your DH in this? He should be telling his father where to get off.

rollonthesummer · 11/08/2017 16:06

Does no one back you up-your husband in particular?! He sounds awful! I'd be leaving DH to feed the kids whilst I read my book in a different room.

If DH wasn't backing me, I wouldn't be going again.

SheSaidHeSaid · 11/08/2017 16:06

YANBU. Left over omelete that's sat around for 4-5 hours is not good.

There is no way I'd be wanting to eat chicken and rice that's been reheated again and again. Does he ever get ill?

What does your DP think of all this? Does he share the same views of your FIL?

Questioningeverything · 11/08/2017 16:09

Yeah fuck that for a game of soldiers, I'd stop staying.

Who the hell eats at 10pm?? I'd be way past hungry by that point. If you tried to serve me steak at 10pm I'd laugh and go to bed. I don't know how you put up with it. My kids eat about 4.30 and I eat around 7. Three hours later I'm in bed!!!

sonjadog · 11/08/2017 16:09

I suggest next time you take the leftovers, chop them into tiny bits, and put them in the bin. If he asks you why, tell him.

ClemDanfango · 11/08/2017 16:11

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TestingTestingWonTooFree · 11/08/2017 16:13

He sounds like a prick. I'd consider explaining that you don't enjoy his input and if he forces it on you you won't visit again. And then don't.

madja · 11/08/2017 16:13

Hmm I feel you pain. My mil is a pain when we visit.
She deliberately forgets when my son and DH (her son) will eat, so she can make a big deal of it even though she has been told and nauseum. (My son has sensory issues, so some foods will outright make him vomit) She knows what veg he will eat, but fails to buy any of it. We are not allowed in the kitchen to make alternatives or he will never learn apparently. We work on this all the time and he's making great progress, not that she would know, she never asks.

Ropsleybunny · 11/08/2017 16:20

I'd be eating my own eyes with a spoon before I stayed there again.

Or be arrested for murder.

One or the other.

Oh do get off the fence Grin Grin Grin

I love the first line of your post. Grin

1hamwich4 · 11/08/2017 16:23

Sounds incredibly irritating and controlling but given that it's his house I suppose he should be allowed to play his way.

Not sure I'd choose to stay there under those circumstances but that's a separate question.

Given he is so obsessed with playing restaurant though could you pander to this and put in very specific orders for separate special kid's meals at specific times in advance? Or better still, get the kids to do it?

He might decide it's easier to take your advice, or to share his toys a bit more then. Either that or he'll end up happily cooking six meals a day and you won't have to lift a finger!

AttilaTheMeerkat · 11/08/2017 16:23

Would no longer stay with FIL under any circumstances. He is a boorish idiot. I am surprised you have not all gone down with food poisoning given his reheating of rice and chicken as well. He is no gourmet cook either if he has been doing that, infact he is no cook.

What does your H say about his dad's behaviours?. I see his opinion is absent from your posting.

I would ask yourself why you have put up with such foul treatment from him at all, you would not tolerate this from a friend so why is he any different?. He is not.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 11/08/2017 16:24

No-one should ever pander to controlling behaviours; controlling behaviours are abusive in nature.

RhiWrites · 11/08/2017 16:25

Tell FIL "look I don't appreciate you mocking the food I make for my children if I need your input I'll ask for it". Or ask your husband to speak to him. It's ridiculous the way he's acting.

Alternative, future holidays have separate accomodation so that you can cook what you want when you want without snarky comments.

billysboy · 11/08/2017 16:27

A good reply " if only I was as perfect as you " what a pompous prick they are your kids so you get to decide what and when they eat regardless

Where was your partner in all of this ?

Pigface1 · 11/08/2017 16:29

Serving the omelette with the adults' dinner, calling it the piece de resistance, and criticising it was unbelievably mean and rude.

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