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AIBU?

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To find FIL very annoying? Who IBU?

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idlibfest · 11/08/2017 15:57

FIL is very controlling about food. When we go to stay with PILs over the holidays he cooks everything, and decides all meals. This has more positives than negatives as he is actually a good cook and it is a pleasure to eat his food most of the time.

Part of his being controlling about food is that he will never throw food away, even past the point it has gone off or after he has reheated rice or chicken five times. Also most of the things he makes are quite exotic and so the DCs (all under 3) do not always want to eat them. He also does it within his own timing, so would think nothing of serving dinner at 10pm at night after the DC should be in bed.

In these situations, I make something else that I know they like and will eat (pesto pasta etc) But he cannot stand anyone else in the kitchen. So while I am doing it he is standing over me asking what I am doing, why I am not making the pasta al denté, why my DC will not eat his food, suggesting ridiculous changes to the dish I am making, taking on a consulting role, and talking to me in a patronising way as if I think what I am making is a gourmet meal. Does that make sense?

I say over and over again that this is just something simple for the DC to eat because they are fussy about food and need to eat at a regular time - this is not something I need advice on or something I think needs to be entered into master chef, I am just putting it together because the DC need to eat.

But he cannot accept this. Yesterday DD2 asked for an omelette with ham at 5pm. The other two DC agreed they would eat it too so I made a big one and served them all with some tomatoes and salad at 5pm. FIL was hanging around as usual critiquing things, asking why I wasn't putting some chilli in the omelette... why I wasn't doing this and that.

Once DCs were in bed and FIL was serving up steak at 10pm he insisted on bringing out the cold, flabby, gnawed ends of the remaining omelette I made at 5pm as the "piece de resistance" (or whatever it's called) then serving everyone a tiny piece. He then told me in front of everyone that I "should have added chilli," and I should learn that for "next time."

I told him, and everyone, as I always do, that this was a meal for the DC earlier and I never intended everyone to eat it at dinner time, and then I am met with shock from everyone at the thought that I was considering throwing away the remaining omelette that the DC didn't eat.

The choice seems to be that whatever is made in the kitchen is FIL's property to serve up/ridicule/eat/critique. Even if it has an entirely different purpose.

AIBU?

OP posts:
AztecHero · 11/08/2017 16:29

I would have said that your FIL just made himself look like a complete twat in front of everyone- but you say that everyone else appeared to agree with him?

Are there differing cultural expectations at play here?

PandorasXbox · 11/08/2017 16:31

He sounds deranged. Cold flabby omelette fgs!

troodiedoo · 11/08/2017 16:31

Christ that would annoy the shit out of me. I would have snapped.

Surely he didn't re heat the omelette?

troodiedoo · 11/08/2017 16:32

Oh sorry cold and flabby! Baby brain.

TheMerryWidow1 · 11/08/2017 16:34

you poor thing that's disgusting behaviour on his part. About time your DH stood up for you, or you tell DH you won't be going again! You don't need to put up with that.

BertrandRussell · 11/08/2017 16:36

Who were the other people at the table who seemed to be agreeing with this bizarre behaviour?

honeysucklejasmine · 11/08/2017 16:36

Eugh, how frustrating! I wouldn't care how good it tastes, if it's served at 10pm it's too late.

AztecHero · 11/08/2017 16:37

Quite interesting dynamics.

Your FIL is undermining you as a parent, humiliating you and making it all public.

Peppapogstillonaloop · 11/08/2017 16:39

You have the patience of a saint to not lose your temper after all that! What a tedious pompous arse! What does your Dh say? Yanbu AT ALL I could not put up with that very often do you see them much?!!

JamOrCreamFirst · 11/08/2017 16:39

Chilli in a ham omelette? Seriously? He can't be that good a cook. Pretentious twat, more like.

Aquamarine1029 · 11/08/2017 16:39

Your FIL isn't just controlling, he's cruel and seems to take pleasure in trying to humiliate you. This isn't just about food, it's about him being an insufferable cunt. I would never stay in his home again. I would be positively outraged if anyone treated me like that, especially in front of my kids.

Beachbaby2017 · 11/08/2017 16:41

His behaviour is terrible. I can't stand having one person dictate what time I get to eat, let alone the rest of it. Does nobody else say anything? It's probably "normal" to them.

I have issues with my ILs and food, and I think going forward we just won't stay with them. I'm not sure how that's going to play out because food is central to socializing for them, and also not staying with them means we won't be able to afford to visit as much. But I'm done being controlled by when and how they want to eat.

ClopySow · 11/08/2017 16:41

How have you managed not to lose it? He sounds awful.

CheeseAndOnionIcecream · 11/08/2017 16:42

He reheats rice and chicken 5 times?! Shock. Have you not had horrendous food poisoning?

littlebird77 · 11/08/2017 16:42

Do not stay with them anymore. I could not bear to be controlled in this way or eat at 10pm every night! Can't you stay in a local hotel or BB when you visit? Then you can eat whatever you damn well please

Madwoman5 · 11/08/2017 16:43

Wow. Did he mean to be so rude? I think so. Probably best to cook/freeze kids meals in advance so you can just microwave/oven heat when they are hungry. Minimal prep in front of this dickhead. Then add tabasco/chilli (as he seems to have plenty) to the leftovers before slicing and binning. Alternatively, "please stop being like a stalker and let me do the kid's food in peace!"

ClopySow · 11/08/2017 16:43

This isn't just about food, it's about him being an insufferable cunt

Beautifully put.

littlebird77 · 11/08/2017 16:43

I think the final straw would be how he embarrassed you at dinner....how have you not had a huge row with your dh about this???? I would be fuming and then some. I think some straight talking needs to happen you to dh and then dh to darling FIL.

SapphireStrange · 11/08/2017 16:45

He's a twat and I wouldn't stay with him again.

However, your kids are a bit tedious. Your DD 'asked for an omelette with ham at 5pm'; does this tally with you saying they need to eat at regular times?

Also, the others 'agreed they would eat it too'? How magnanimous of them. I'm old-fashioned, I happily admit, but my attitude is eat what you're given.

Blueemeraldagain · 11/08/2017 16:45

I would absolutely refuse to stay, or allow the children to stay. I would visit but stay elsewhere, due to the cost this would, of course, mean far fewer visits. If the PIL got upset I would be excruciatingly clear as to why we were not staying under their roof.

Also, throw the children's leftovers away.

Chrys2017 · 11/08/2017 16:46

I would be inclined to take advantage of the situation. Play up the 'inept fool' role in the kitchen and let him take over making the children's meals too.
I do agree with him that you shouldn't have wasted the omelette though.

Assburgers · 11/08/2017 16:49

The way I see it, when people are rude like this, they're giving you permission to be rude back. Go ahead. I also give you permission Grin

Sugarpiehoneyeye · 11/08/2017 16:50

Get him told OP, even reading about him is draining ! 😂

Mummaofboys · 11/08/2017 16:51

Yuk left over omelette from sombody else's plate hours before 🤢 You didn't eat it did you? Put some ear plugs in whilst you are cooking so you can not hear the tedious comments. He sounds very ummm 'eccentric'?

Bemusedandpuzzled · 11/08/2017 16:54

" Play up the 'inept fool' role in the kitchen and let him take over making the children's meals too."

He won't make anything they can eat. Because he won't listen to the OP about what they will eat. It's not uncommon for children to have slightly different tastes to adults and to need different foods, is it? Some kids (note: NOT all, we don't need to hear about all the children who just love foie gras) just won't touch chilli, olives, pickled onions, or other strong tasting foods. She's presumably not putting chilli in the omelette because she knows the kids don't like chilli. Seems a sensible approach, and no amount of telling her that it would be more cheffy to add the spice will change that.

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