To not understand why drinking alcohol while your kids are asleep is ok but smoking weed is not?

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I know this may sound like a twattish thread and I understand I may get a lot of shit for it.

The thing is though, I don't understand how wine and gin (two favourites on here) are seemingly ok to consume while kids are in bed sleeping, yet having a smoke is terrible.

Now, putting legalities aside (I don't think they matter seeing how some places are now legalising it can't be that bad) what is the issue with smoking but there seems to be no issue with drinking?

I see friends on fb and the like talking about having a few bottles almost every night some with really small babies (I'm terribly anxious so the younger the child the more I worry, even though I probably shouldn't lol) yet if you have a smoke you are deemed irresponisble and a druggie right up there with crack fs.

One person I know, would drink almost every night and would complain that her partner (now ex) would smoke weed. Yet I see them both as the same really, maybe I see the drinking as worse though because once you are drunk that's it there is no way to really stop that in an emergency. Smoking, you tend to snap out of it need be and are always alert and just snacking will make you feel how you did before anyway.

Basically, wondering what others views are?

*any illegal drug - sorry

I think someone is making huge assumptions that people wouldn't know where to start growing their own.

alcohol and cigarettes do more social harm than weed.

If you mean me itmehi- no, I'm not making assumptions because I was referring to kids I know and teach who are scarily clueless about a lot of stuff. They also admit to buying it when questioned. In fact no pupil questioned re cannabis use in the school I've worked in for a number of years has ever said they grow it- they all buy it.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19560900

Debunking the cannabis/psychosis link

www.alternet.org/drugs/debunking-latest-pathetic-fear-smear-campaign-against-marijuana

A very well written article debunking Sir Robin Murrays findings including all links to the sources he used

'You can drink in moderation, you can't smoke drugs in moderation.
Absolute bollocks.

Me and dh smoked one small spliff a night for 10 years, we then gave up for 10 years and have been smoking a spliff a night for the past 3 years.
Occasionally if we go to a music festival (summer) or Christmas, we may have a bit more, but certainly not to the extent that some people get through drinking alcohol.
We don't find it addictive neither, but tobacco through normal smoking is a different matter, we are truly addicted.

How is it that worked out?

Who's more likely to do damage? A bunch of people high on weed or a bunch of people blackout drunk?

Go in to a+e on a friday night, how many stoned people are in there? Now count the drunk people. Go to police cells and do the same

No, you can't always tell.

I'm a daycare provider, elementary school volunteer, regular church goer and all around pillar of the community The few people who know I (very occasionally) smoke have been shocked, and they certainly have been around my kids enough that they'd have smelled it on them if it was there to be smelled.

Yes some people are total cunts on weed. Some people also are total cunts on alcohol. Some aren't.

OP I agree, there's no difference.

I live in a place where weed is legal. I've been thinking about buying some for a while now. From my own personal experience with it, pre having a child, it is far safer than alcohol with less bad side effects, no hangover for example. I would probably get some edibles rather than smoke it so the second hand smoke wouldn't be an issue (even though I would smoke outside anyway if I was going to do it that way). So to those who wouldn't agree with me taking a legal drug in a way that has no effect on anyone around me, but would be ok with a glass of wine, could they explain why?

Peanuts have health warnings about containing peanuts so why wouldnt weed have health warnings? As long as they are true.
A menu similar to those in the Netherlands would be suitable for giving information about the various types available.

Alcohol and cigs have ages restrictions of 18 years old and i would imagine weed will be the same

I think not selling to anyone under 18 would be the way to go. Interesting point about the package warnings, I hadn't thought of that. Since part of the reason I want legalisation is for consumer protection, I probably should've. Yes I expect there'd be something. There is for cigarettes and alcohol.

Love how the defence of smoking weed is 'ignore the fact it's illegeal' & 'but alcohol...'

Most people will object to the fact it's an illegal drugs, that illegal drugs are often linked to organised crime, organised crime is involved in thr exploitation of women and children, it's also often linked to dealing harder substances.

I don't agree with smoking normal cigarettes around children and also don't like people drinking to excess around children. Unsurprisingly, I'm not a fan of people having illegal drugs around children.

I'd happily legalise the medicinal use of cannabis if it's distributed safely with set doses etc and is not smoked around children.

So maisy, you want it decriminalising then?

I'd certainly be up for decriminalising it as long as it came with health warnings.

Most people I know you use weed, smoke it mixed with tobacco, so there's a health risk for a start

You. = who

I don't smoke or drink, but my experience of living with people did was the effects of each substance are quite different. I think alcohol is a depressant isn't it, normal tobacco causes anxiety and cannabis seemed to lead to a bit of paranoia in half the people I knew that smoked regularly. I think the cannabis and alcohol both impair memory and decision making. I think a lot of drinkers would be put off if they saw videos of themselves after one too many, but I also think a lot of weed smokers would be surprised how differently they are behaving too. Perhaps it's the memory loss.

Vulval Yes I think there should be restrictions, so definitely not for sale to under 18s. Health warnings for people with a family history of schizophrenia, and an indication of the strength (some sort of 'units' system?) on the packaging.

Getting stoned or drunk whilst in charge of children is downright stupid.

For me the difference is that if I have one glass of wine it wouldn't alter my behaviour but if I had a spliff it would.

If I had to walk through a crowd, I'd rather it be stoners than drunks.

My sister smokes it, it hasn't altered her behaviour in a negative way tbh, in fact it's helped calm her anxiety.

If i had a drag on a spliff it wouldnt alter my behaviour but if i drank a bottle of wine it would

Its possible to have a lot or litttle of either, but at least compare the same thing

I agree OP and cannot understand the sense of cannabis being illegal when alcohol is legal.