We're not on a 17 day vacation, not us. We have meetings and calls! Now where did that golf ball go?...Trump cont.

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Interesting video by the US Military from 1947

I've just shown this clip. Sound familiar?

Trump's world - Only a murderer and terrorist in any other Muslim religion.

All patriotic Americans want to know: Why didn't James Alex Fields' Christian family and pastor inform authorities of his radicalization?

NorthWest You are a genius.
Prevent duty for the US. The UK version for our American Mumsnetters: www.gov.uk/government/publications/protecting-children-from-radicalisation-the-prevent-duty

There is no hiding from the improvement in his numbers since making threats to NK. Just like lots of people approved of him dropping a bomb on Syria. Just like we in the UK loved Maggie in a tank and wielding a task force.

This seems strange

According to Virginia State Police, three other people were arrested in connection with the rally. They were identified as Troy Dunigan, 21, of Chattanooga, Tenn., charged with disorderly conduct; Jacob L. Smith, 21, of Louisa, Va., charged with assault and battery; and James M. O'Brien, 44, of Gainesville, Fla., charged with carrying a concealed handgun.

Weren't there people - the militia - openly carrying assault rifles?

There is no hiding from the improvement in his numbers since making threats to NK.

There's no denying that his (still abysmal, mind) approval has gone up very recently. The NK threats may well be a contributing factor, though there does tend to be a bit of a delay in how events factor into polls simply due to methodology and publishing dates, so I'm cautious in terms of attributing changes in polls too close to the actual event.

Having said that, people do, sadly, tend towards jingoistic flag-waiving in the face of any sort of conflict. The US, as you rightly point out, is by no means alone in this respect. It's quite scary, really, to imagine that literally millions of people might be mindlessly cheering on the nuclear apocalypse. Morons!

Orlantina in some states you need a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Of course it's perfectly ok to wander around with an assault rifle

Here we go, this is the law on guns in Virginia:

"Open carry of a handgun without a permit is legal in Virginia at age 18, withstanding other applicable laws. Concealed carry of a handgun is allowed for persons who hold a valid CHP (concealed handgun permit), comply with certain restrictions, or who hold certain positions."

in some states you need a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Of course it's perfectly ok to wander around with an assault rifle

Ok.................

Sorry, meant to add that it's therefore probable that Mr O'Brien didn't have the correct permit to carry a concealed weapon. As he's from Florida it's likely he had a permit for that state, but not for Virginia.

On an earlier point about the return of Obama:

www.newsweek.com/trump-obama-fall-2017-democratic-party-649866?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

cavemum how's cave baby doing? If I remember correctly, he's about to start his GCSEs? Or has it not been that long - time is behaving in a very strange way these days!

Pain

He's doing well thanks Pain 4 months old next week and the little chubster was tipping the scales at 18lb 14oz at his weigh in last week I'd like to take the credit but he's been on formula since 5 weeks!

Apologies if I missed someone else saying this. I see Obama has commented on Charlottesville, albeit too obliquely for Trump to comprehend, with Tweets quoting Nelson Mandela:

Barack Obama‏Verified account @BarackObama 10h10 hours ago

"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion..."
"People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love..."
"...For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." - Nelson Mandela

Ahhh enjoy your chubby baby cuddles! I don't think there's anything more restorative in the world

Yes. It has all escalated. But I'm hoping that it's because he's getting increasingly hemmed in by mueller, the GOP starting to take a stand against him, the defence community saying they wouldn't enact the trans ban as it was etc and that these actions are the last frantic flailing movements of someone who is going down.

This does rather smack of him rallying troops to fight any (democratic) take-down. Scary times.

Apologies if this has been posted - I've just seen David Duke being interviewed at the rally yesterday saying that the protesters were ' fulfilling Trump' s promise to take America back'. Unsurprising on one level but horribly frightening given 45's equivocation.

I'm glued to CNN.

A Democratic strategist on CNN has just called 45 'a piece of human refuse, a bigot and a racist'.

How true.

I've just been called a "rabid leftie" on Twitter

CaveMum, congratulations!

The veneer is coming off. It's a good thing (so long as nobody thinks that nuking might be a good diversion tactic).

Have you been called a social justice warrior yet?

The next week is going to be interesting. His Sunday morning tweets are late.

All patriotic Americans want to know: Why didn't James Alex Fields' Christian family and pastor inform authorities of his radicalization?

According to the buzzfeed article on him his mum has said he had an African American friend, so he couldn't really be racist, obvs... seriously, my eyes rolled so much at this I almost fell over backwards.

No that's next on my tick list Orlantina

We should have badges, like in the Brownies/Guides, or at the very least a bingo sheet

A rise in support for trump is to be expected from the NK escalation. It is not just that people love a war, but when a leader pits their country against another country they feel obliged to support their team, even if they don't really agree with what is happening. It may be basic tribalism, but it is inherent to some degree or another in all of us.

Trump and his team know this and it is exactly why they are going down this dangerous path. They are counting on the ingrained patriotism that will see people rally around their president in the event of an actual war kicking off. He may be a psychotic imbecile, but by God he is their psychotic imbecile and they will support him in a fight against the terrible foe.

It's all so tiresomely predictable.