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To be annoyed at council waiting times

416 replies

Dancingfairy · 02/08/2017 19:54

My council has a 3 week wait for all repairs. The light in my bathroom has gone, it's not a standar bulb so someone from the council has to come to sort it. I have to wait 3 weeks! So I cannot use my bathroom after a certain time, I usually bath my children before bed but won't be able to for 3 weeks. Aibu to think it should be sorted sooner?

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HelenaDove · 02/08/2017 23:54

Oswin i hope it gets sorted soon Thanks

Redactio · 02/08/2017 23:57

Helena:
An absolute disgrace. I expect a few of the fascists on this thread (Grilledaubergines I'm looking at you) are quite happy about it though.

Grilledaubergines · 02/08/2017 23:58

Yeah ok, I'll wave shall I?

FreudianSlurp · 02/08/2017 23:59

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HelenaDove · 03/08/2017 00:00

Similar shit in Salford.

www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=2560

Mumof56 · 03/08/2017 00:14

YABU
Get the free torch app for your phone in the app store.

habenero20 · 03/08/2017 01:07

I'm not envious of council houses; I value the area I live in too much. And if you think Labour would build more then you're seriously naive.

Labour and conservatives have done nothing to deal with the cost of housing.

habenero20 · 03/08/2017 01:08

The fitting is impossible to get in to unless you're a local authority qualified light wizard.

why is there lighting that requires an electrician to change the lamp? that's ridiculous.

WhamBarsArentAsFizzyAsTheyWere · 03/08/2017 06:56

I'm not allowed to change mine either. It's in my tenancy agreement.

People are entitled to have a moan about minor annoyances.

I whinged yesterday because I got a hole in my favourite shoes, but I guess I should be grateful to have shoes at all and I'm in a council house so I guess everyone here has subsidised my shoes

Do people seriously never gripe about anything because others have it worse?

Hope you get sorted soon op Flowers

ClopySow · 03/08/2017 07:33

why is there lighting that requires an electrician to change the lamp? that's ridiculous

I imagine it's to do with fire regulations because we live in high rises. If we did pay someone to do it and they made an arse of it, hundreds of flats are at risk.

Alfieisnoisy · 03/08/2017 07:52

Love the fact that the very first response the OP had was to tell where to be grateful she had a council house HmmAngry

Some of you seriously need to get a life if you are envious of someone too poor to pay private rents or mortgages.....people like ME and the OP.

I am also pretty certain you'd be moaning at her if she was a private tenant and did a repair her landlord didn't want her to do. It's the same thing here....a social landlord instead of a private one but landlord with rules and regulations about what tenants can and cannot do with regard to repairs.

I am not allowed to touch the plumbing in anyway except to turn water off and in again during repairs. This means my shower which has broken needed the landlords repair people put who condemned it. They are putting in a brand new shower this weekend. Do enjoy your moan about my temerity in wanting a working shower. I mean....how utterly entitled can one person be? A working shower...the horror of it!

Alfieisnoisy · 03/08/2017 07:55

But yes...if you have a phone with a torch then that will solve the darkness issue. My bathroom has no windows so is very dark without a light
And definitely candles out of reach make a bathroom pretty....and very exciting for kids at bath time

doobree · 03/08/2017 08:19

thanks for the good wishes lostinasea

We have tried freecycle etc and used and given a lot on the past.

Unfortunately now due to worse health issues preventing us from being able to collect and things and also with getting them up the stairs, we aren't able to use freecycle or ebay as we'd have to pay for a man with a van to get things for us and it works out very expensive for items that may not even last very long. I cant risk £70 on delivery for an appliance that might not even survive the transportation (like a fridge) - have had that before. Also there isn't a big scene of either freecycle or ebay where we live so there isn't much on offer and it tends to be far away. We dont have family we could ask and are isolated from friends because of having to move and health problems.

Having been both a home owner and a tenant I can say that however poor I might be, I would always choose being a home owner as you have so much choice and autonomy and dont have to ask (beg) for permission for simple everyday things;-
the choice not to have contract that regulates almost every detail of how you live,
choice over which contractor you use,
choice over when to move
choice not to have people come to inspect (and judge us) our home every 3 months,
choice not to pay contract renewal fees 6 or 12 monthly,
choice not to pay £400 in agent fees every time you move (often not through your own choice) and often every 6 or 12 months,
choice of whether I can use candles instead of them being prohibited,
choice of how often I wash my windows,
choice of whether to hang a hanging basket or a picture on the wall without asking permission (and it being denied),
choice of whether to use an oil filled radiator instead of it being prohibited,
choice of how to decorate,
choice of which appliances to have instead of having to use what ever (not very good ones) might be supplied
choice of whether to have pet,
choice of whether or not I have a social gathering instead of them being prohibited,
choice to make repairs if you can afford it rather than being in the situation where you could afford repairs but the LL won't allow it and it would be madness to pour money into someone else's property that you could be given notice on at any time or that you know you have to leave becuase the LL is a pain in the arse or is selling up.
the fear of what on earth you will do as a pensioners.
no fear that if you try to enforce your rights such as stopping a LL entering your home or repairs that you will not be revenge evicted

It doesnt matter of some clauses are legally unenforecable because some LLs will threaten and try anyway and it just costs money and stress to defend yourself and it is awful to live under threat and constant insecurity, particularly if unwell and disabled.

I have yet to experience one single thing as a private rented tenant that outweighs even the smallest of advantages of owning your own home - even with struggling to afford a mortgage or to fix a boiler.

At least with home-owning, everything you do is an investment in your own life and an exercise in being an independent, autonomous adult.

doobree · 03/08/2017 08:36

Oh yes and the really big ridiculous one of not being allowed to be self-employed or work from home because of clauses in the tenancy agreement and the LL being horrified at the mere thought,

Even though there are now legally protected and defined Home business tenancy agreements that allow home working without risk that the residential tenancy will turn into a business tenancy where the tenant would gain the automatic right to renew the tenancy. Yep, a business has the automatic right to renew a lease, but not person who just needs a home to live in.

So yeah, I hate being a tenant

coddiwomple · 03/08/2017 08:47

Alfieisnoisy

you seem to think that all property owners live in detached house. Owners of flats have many restrictions too (and rightly so, the leases are there to protect everybody). (pets, windows, flooring, gatherings etc.)

You might prefer to be a home owner, no problem with that. There is a freedom in renting that you don't have when you own your home (or part of your home when you pay a mortgage). The repairs have nothing to do with you, you don't have to budget to fix urgent roof, leaks, windows, plumbing issues. You don't care about the property market in times of uncertainty, if it crashes, you are safe. Nuisance neighbours are merely an inconvenience, you can always move, it doesn't matter if they are hellish or devalue your property. You have no risk of being stuck in a property which does not sell. You don't have to budget a fortune in stamp duty when you do move. Until you pay off your mortgage, the house belongs to the bank, too many people seem to forget that.

There's positives and negatives in every situation, I just don't think that being a tenant is that bad or that being a homeowner is trouble free if you have a limited budget. I am in the South East, so of course I admit that it's much cheaper to buy a home around here at the moment! That might change.

WhatToDoAboutThis2017 · 03/08/2017 08:51

Yep, a business has the automatic right to renew a lease, but not person who just needs a home to live in.

Good. This is someone's house you're living in, and they may need it back at anytime. Maybe they've fallen on hard times and need to move in themselves, maybe they need to sell for the money.

There are thousands of reasons. Nobody should be automatically entitled to someone else's home.

(And yes, I am a renter too.)

Lostbeyondwords · 03/08/2017 09:11

Oswin that's completely shit Flowers your housing providers have totally failed you (as you're aware). Your situation is an embarrassment to council repair policies, I honestly hope your solicitor/mum/mp are able to hurry things up for you. Have you got a no win no fee solicitor? They're usually willing to take on disrepair claims.

doobree · 03/08/2017 09:40

coddiwomple you meant me, Doobree not Alfie.

With respect you are spectacularly out of touch with the realities of renting for many people.

The circumstances and freedoms you describe might apply to well-off people who can easily satisfy the income requirements of many multiples per month but not to many families and certainly not to people who are unable to work through illness and disabilty. You are aware that many LL refuse outright to rent to non-working tenants even if they are ill and can pay rent up front? We have NONE of those freedoms you describe whatsoever though no fault of our own.

whattodo bit tough on peopl who need somewhere to

doobree · 03/08/2017 09:46

to live

ClopySow · 03/08/2017 09:54

There are thousands of reasons. Nobody should be automatically entitled to someone else's home

But those with enough money should be entitled to cut normal people out of the housing market by buying up additional houses and charging stupid amounts. Right?

coddiwomple · 03/08/2017 10:09

sorry, my reply seem to have disappeared, but yes doobree Blush

doobree · 03/08/2017 10:10

coddiwomple also I would sincerly like to invite you to live our life for a period of time to see which you prefer. I think you would be horrified.

And clearly being a homeowner is more advantageous than being a tenant otherwise tens of milions of people, including yourself, would not bother do it. It is disingenuous to say otherwise.

Bathinginthedark · 03/08/2017 11:02

whistles

chirpyburbycheapsheep · 03/08/2017 12:17

doobree I am in your situation. I have actually, in the past, planned my suicide in case of eviction as being long term ill, in constant pain, terrified and homeless seemed worse than death.

The situation that you, me and many others are in through no fault of their own has actually made me lose faith in this society altogether. That the 5th (I believe) richest nation on earth seemingly can't afford to adequately house, if house at all, its most vulnerable is shameful. The fact that people have swallowed the lie that there is no money, when living in London, you see millions all around you is a testament to the brainwashing power of the media. Flowers

ClopySow · 03/08/2017 12:44

Not only that chirpyburbycheapsheep but the poorest and most vulnerable are blamed for societies problems and thought of as entitled. I didn't realise how deep that feeling is until i read this thread.