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To be annoyed at council waiting times

416 replies

Dancingfairy · 02/08/2017 19:54

My council has a 3 week wait for all repairs. The light in my bathroom has gone, it's not a standar bulb so someone from the council has to come to sort it. I have to wait 3 weeks! So I cannot use my bathroom after a certain time, I usually bath my children before bed but won't be able to for 3 weeks. Aibu to think it should be sorted sooner?

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lostinaseaofbubbles · 02/08/2017 23:26

Doobree - I was trying very hard not to get drawn into any of the argumentative stuff on this thread. I rented (privately) with a whole variety of landlords for 13 years. I've done the bathroom tiles falling off so you can't have a shower. I've done the water running down the walls from a leak in the upstairs flat that they refuse to fix. The mouldy pillows because of the damp coming through the wall. Walking across slugs in the kitchen. Fly infestations. No freezer

I do realise that I'm lucky to be in a position to own my own home (well, the bank own more of it than I do). I do realise that I'm lucky I did it when I did because health and family changes since would have made it impossible. I do realise that.

If it makes you feel better I don't have a tumble dryer. Someone did give me their old freezer and if you slam it shut and shove a shoe in front of it it just about stays frozen. I can't remember what the other thing you mentioned was...

Being a tenant with a shit landlord sucks, being a homeowner who can't afford to look after their house also sucks. I don't want to get into a squabble over it, no I'm not going to swap (for a start, my son has just got into the village school and I've bought the uniform so we can't just move now!!)

Wishing you all the best

Ps try freecycle for the white goods. Some people give away some surprisingly good stuff on there.

Oswin · 02/08/2017 23:27

Everyone should search Helenadoves posts for shocking stories, and see the attitude of other posters towards her for highlighting the shit way we are treated.

Now I won't deny that I'm lucky to have a secure home. But it's not lifetime. It's reviewed every few years.

HelenaDove · 02/08/2017 23:30

Kailor Social housing tenants also struggle to get things fixed.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2901354-Housing-associations-Are-you-having-problems

The Grenfell tenants struggled to get anyone to take notice of them. When they complained they were also threatened with legal action unless they STFU So the myth that private tenants have it all bad and social tenants have it all good is just that.............a myth. This particular genie isnt going back in the bottle no matter how much some of you may want it to.

Grilledaubergines · 02/08/2017 23:31

Op, can you hand on heart, with knowledge of the lack of financial resources that public services find themselves in, believe its necessary to put further strain on those resources rather than put your hand in your pocket. Light bulbs, no matter how spectacularly intricate and complex yours may be, are part of the costs of running a home, along with food, bin bags, washing up liquid etc.

Redactio · 02/08/2017 23:35

Grilled:
It's not the OP's fault that public services are short of money. She is paying rent and expects the property to be maintained in accordance with the tenancy agreement. Do you have a problem with that? Some public services are not that short of cash either, we can afford Trident!

ChasingHighs · 02/08/2017 23:37

If you lived in a privately rented flat and your landlord said you are not allowed to change the bulb in the bathroom,it must be changed by us. Would you?

AgnesNitt1976 · 02/08/2017 23:37

I too am not allowed to change the bulb in my bathroom, they changed the fitting when they installed a new bathroom. Previous to this along with all other bulbs was my responsibility.

Some of the responses on here are pretty shocking that the OP or pretty much any person in social/council housing should be grateful to have a roof over their head. These homes are not free and as many posters have pointed out not always cheaper than private renting.

Three week wait is a pain but manageable with lanterns etc.

WhatToDoAboutThis2017 · 02/08/2017 23:37

If there are people in council houses that can afford private rents, then they should be private renting.

Council houses are for those in need; those who can't afford private rents.

ChasingHighs · 02/08/2017 23:39

Council houses are for anyone who applies for them.

Huffletuff · 02/08/2017 23:41

What Sorry, but you have that completely wrong. Social housing is not just for people who can't afford to rent privately. As previously stated, my council house costs more than most private rentals in my area.

I have a council house because I am disabled and cannot get an adapted property as a private rental. I was made homeless because I became disabled, my husband left me as a result and I had my mortgage home repossessed.

Why should I expect a private landlord to make adaptations to their own property when social housing is there to help the disabled?

OfficerVanHalen · 02/08/2017 23:42

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Redactio · 02/08/2017 23:43

WhatToDoAbout Twunts:
One of the most important featuires of social housing is security of tenure, not just afordability. It has been pointed out upthread that some social housing rents are more expensive than the private sector. I suggest you do a bit of research before posting ( Iwas going to put "crap" after "posting" but thought it was self evident).

Oswin · 02/08/2017 23:43

No they are not what to do. We don't all live on the south. There is not a shortage everywhere. In some places it's pretty easy.
I was one of only three who bidded on my flat.

Grilledaubergines · 02/08/2017 23:44

Redactio it's not anyone's fault but it's the way it is. It smacks of entitlement. If everyone has that attitude it does massively impact on resources.

WhatToDoAboutThis2017 · 02/08/2017 23:45

Huffletuff I said they were for those in need; you are quite clearly in need of your house.

If people are so envious of access to affordable social housing with security of tenure they could always idk like vote for a govt that has promised to build more of it

I'm not envious of council houses; I value the area I live in too much. And if you think Labour would build more then you're seriously naive.

FreudianSlurp · 02/08/2017 23:45

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WhatToDoAboutThis2017 · 02/08/2017 23:46

We don't all live on the south.

I don't live in the south, either.

ChasingHighs · 02/08/2017 23:46

It's not entitled to comply with the council rules if you are not allowed to replace the bulbs yourself.

Giraffey1 · 02/08/2017 23:46

Why not get a couple of cheap candles in glass jars or similar and bath the children by candlelight. Make it an adventure for them! Three weeks will soon go and you know, a dead light bulb is pretty minor in the scheme of things, even if it is inconvenient.

Redactio · 02/08/2017 23:48

Grilled:
The government is very happy to subsidise the private sector by allowing tax relief on buy to let mortgages. Perhaps it would be better if those reliefs were removed and the savings put into building affordable housing for our fellow citizens.

HelenaDove · 02/08/2017 23:51

Residents were told to remove their pets, but no compensation was offered to cover the
costs involved.
 No consideration was given to residents who worked night shifts.
 Workers used electricity paid for by of residents, without offering compensation.
 Doors were left open and residents were able to wander in unchallenged by workers
who did not know them.
 Quality alterations that residents had already made to their homes were ripped out to
make way for inferior alternatives.
 Supposedly completed electrical rewiring was found to be substandard and occasionally
dangerous.
 Supposedly completed pipe works and its housing were found to be substandard.
 In some homes, odd sized radiators and kitchen unit doors had been fitted.
 Flooding in one home had been caused by an unsupervised apprentice.
 Households were left overnight without running water or a toilet.
 At least one resident was left without electricity for a whole weekend.
 Some workers were found to be abusive, bullying and inconsiderate, especially towards
elderly or otherwise vulnerable residents.

HelenaDove · 02/08/2017 23:53

Hodkinson carried out a qualitative survey of 14 homes refurbished by Rydon that had been the subject of a huge number of complaints. Showers were fitted next to electric fans. A toilet was installed so close to a wall that you could only sit on it sideways. Some households went for days without electricity and weeks without cooking facilities. Cupboards were fitted with wrongly size doors. Tenants who complained reported that they were treated dismissively. One remembered the site supervisor saying to him, “It ain’t Chelsea, mate.” Regenter’s out-of-hours emergency line linked to the wrong database, so callout engineers weren’t available. The striking thing was how long problems could drag out: one family’s flat was flooded in January 2014, and repairs weren’t even scheduled till September. Two years later, their flat still hadn’t been fully repaired and redecorated. Even at the most straightforward level, the work wasn’t done to a decent standard.

When approached for comment, Rydon said that since the complaints were made, three years ago, attempts have been made to remedy the problems. They said the comments were not reflective of most of the residents, and that there was a good level of satisfaction among the residents now.

For tenants with more complicated requirements, the situation was worse. The Cifuentes family, one of whom used a wheelchair, was left without ramps, hoists or any means of escape in a fire, and without a lock on the front door. Repairs were so slow and haphazard that, at one point, the family had to move out for over a month, and the disabled member could only have his needs met by going into a respite unit – whereupon they were threatened with losing their carer’s allowance, their disability allowance and their car."

ClopySow · 02/08/2017 23:53

Light bulbs, no matter how spectacularly intricate and complex yours may be, are part of the costs of running a home

I'd be delighted to change my bathroom lightbulb, the same way i change all of the lightbulbs in the rest of the house, but we're not allowed to. I've said that 632 times now. The fitting is impossible to get in to unless you're a local authority qualified light wizard.