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To thoroughly enjoy being Welsh

205 replies

ByseddSosij · 02/08/2017 01:13

....it's my first language but am baffled by tourists asking if we have our own currency Confused do people not do their research before visiting a country?

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PeterIanStaker · 02/08/2017 19:44

We like homegrown Merchant.

Thank you for answering for the nation Grin. The Welsh aren't an homogeneous group different from all others!

My family is born, bred and live in Wales, and I've never got to grips with this strange 'we're Welsh and that makes us different' attitude. We're exactly the same as all the other British people, who are pretty much like everyone else in the world in their love of culture, history and, er, homegrown vegetables. These things are universal.

And if you're getting down to a dragon on a flag being the mark of a special and interesting nation, well get me to Bhutan! Their dragon looks cooler than ours.

missymayhemsmum · 02/08/2017 19:46

I'm English living in Wales. Love the place, love the people. But I'm happily English. And unlike the Welsh I don't need to go on and on and on about my ethnic identity all the time.
(Unlike DD who is being taught in school how important welshness is every bloody lesson, to an extent that sometimes worries me)

Huffletuff · 02/08/2017 19:58

We say cwtch a lot here, though we spell it without the s, which is odd because I know it's supposed to have an s!

Huffletuff · 02/08/2017 19:59

Ahhh missy, you mean Curriculum Cwmreig Grin As teachers, we hate it too!

Mrsorganmorgan · 02/08/2017 20:20

I am very proud of being Welsh. The anthem makes me cry and I get hiraeth if I cross the Severn Bridge and don't get back to Wales the same day

JustAnotherPoster00 · 02/08/2017 20:32

We cold blooded gogs don't use it.

But youre welcome to a panad at anytime Grin

Lolimax · 02/08/2017 20:39

I'm incredibly proud to be Welsh. I was born abroad and didn't move 'home' (army brat) until I was 11. My sense of Welshness is something that has grown in me as I've got older.
I'm now Valleys Welsh and love living here. And although I wasn't taught it in school I did a GCSE in Welsh as an adult. I love the sense of belonging. Of wherever you go and meet someone you'll find someone else in common very quickly.

OhtoblazeswithElvira · 02/08/2017 20:45

To be born Welsh is to be born priviliged. Not with a silver spoon in your mouth but with music in your blood and poetry in your soul.

Isn't this a poem? For all those going Hmm

TinklyLittleLaugh · 02/08/2017 20:48

Yes Elvira it is a poem by Wilfred Wilson, who is perhaps better known as a war poet.

minesapintofwine · 02/08/2017 21:09

gatecrasher are Gavin and Stacey?

The flag is really cool. Except it is really hard to draw. Ds5 had a go at school it was really cute.

Blackandpurple · 02/08/2017 21:46

Ah hiraeth. Love that wordSmile

And gogs do not say cwtch. Only someone south of Merthyr says itGrin

But yes, you can have a panad o dê any time.

user1497863568 · 02/08/2017 22:35

It's definitely not about skin colour as many real Welsh are very swarthy Grin I get it OP, my parents are Irish but my mum had a real thing for Wales because she travelled there to sing in some big eisteddfod. Grew up on Ar Hyd y Nos and Suo Gan. I love it too ❤️

MikeUniformMike · 02/08/2017 22:42

Paned where I'm from. I hate the way English people use Cwtsh, hiraeth and hwyl.
And don't get me started on Welsh names. Most of them don't work outside Wales. (I still hear about Cerise Matthews aaaargh! , cau dy geg nawr MUM).

Apparently, the female winner of Love Island is Welsh and she speaks welsh.

If you don't speak Welsh..., hwyl is fun or sail. Just that. It's not welsh for craic. cau du geg nawr is shut your mouth now, hiraeth is longing/nostalgia/homesickness all rolled into one. Oh and paned is cuppa.

MikeUniformMike · 02/08/2017 22:51

Bear with me on this and might not apply throughout Wales.
Where I'm from, someone is Welsh if they can speak Welsh. Someone who doesn't speak Welsh will get labelled Sais, which of course they might not be. Someone who speaks Welsh (probably but not necessarily born in Wales to welsh parents ) is considered Welsh.

IamaBluebird · 02/08/2017 23:06

Mike, it doesn't apply throughout Wales. Thank goodness.

Huffletuff · 02/08/2017 23:08

mike It's pretty much the same here. Non-Welsh speakers are seen as not being Welsh, despite coming from Cardiff /Valleys etc. Very odd.

It really annoys me when the English use cwtch, usually pronounced wrong. I have a male friend who sends it to me on a regular basis in a text message as cutch and it unreasonably makes my skin crawl Grin

Ebony69 · 02/08/2017 23:19

I too don't get the "proud" thing. It's not an achievement. In any way. It's not something to be "proud" of! Be happy, thankful, whatever. But proud is just weird.

I can completely understand the whole pride thing. I am of a Caribbean background ; it's a big part of my identity I and am immensely proud of my heritage. Doesn't mean I feel in any way superior to other nationalities or cultures.

squoosh · 02/08/2017 23:21

I like to keep national pride strictly to sporting events and the Eurovision.

goose1964 · 02/08/2017 23:22

Me too, although an ex-pat these days . It's great going home

DollyDora · 02/08/2017 23:25

I must be the worst Welsh person I don't speak the language, I hate rugby, don't know the words to the national anthem apart from the bit everyone knows I am from Cardiff though so il use that as an excuse

Llareggub · 02/08/2017 23:29

Non welsh speakers aren't seen as less welsh where I am.

My little english, Wales dwelling sons are a bit bemused by the focus on welsh at school. We don't hear it much in Swansea at all. They steadfastly refuse to support wales in rugby but will for football.

As for me, i dont feel proud really. But when i lived in England i was always gleeful when wales beat them at rugby.

treaclesoda · 02/08/2017 23:33

I'm not Welsh but I think Wales is a fantastic place. And I'm jealous that Welsh people get to have a flag with a dragon on it. Because dragons are great.

I think if I were Welsh I'd be very pleased about it. Maybe not proud, but pleased.

Huffletuff · 02/08/2017 23:38

Llareggub - best name ever Grin

MikeUniformMike · 02/08/2017 23:40

Iama It's not meant in a bad way, it means they speak English but not Welsh, it doesn't mean you're not of wales. If you were any nationality but spoke welsh, you'd be considered welsh.

A bit like would you consider someone Spanish if they couldn't speak Spanish?

DollyDora · 02/08/2017 23:45

I really don't get that I'm Welsh don't speak the language I speak English so would I be considered to be English where you live?