To think Prince George will never be King?

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Or if he is, the next generation won't be?

We were talking about it at lunch. I just have the strong feeling now that the monarchy will fizzle out at some point in the next 50-100 years.

It's not an active "want" just a notion.

Two of us talking earlier felt similarly but the other three were aghast.

So, AIBU?

Like a lot of people I was violently anti monarchy when I was young and radical/cool as I've grown older I like the fact that we have an unelected apolitical head of state.

Riverab or the monarchy will become more multicultural reflecting society at large. For example Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.

unelected apolitical head of state.

And you want that? They are white privileged that are not picked by the people would are more and more none white, they don't represent the common people.

as I've grown older I like the fact that we have an unelected apolitical head of state.

Yes, why?

They aren't subsidised though, if you consider the queen handed over all Crown property to the Govt in return for the civil purse. If she took it back, sold off buck house for flats she'd be quids in.

She couldn't do that though, as Buckingham palace, Windsor and Holyrood aren't owned by her as a private citizen, in the way Balmoral is. The Crown Estate, should the Royal family be scrapped, it would revert to the state.

as I've grown older I like the fact that we have an unelected apolitical head of state.

Apolitical? Really? That's pretty niaive.

I have a feeling we may be heading for some form of constitutional crisis when the Queen dies. Brexit, Trump, we're all used to shockers now, why not one more.

It's a completely different world from when she ascended to the thrown, and whilst she has got on with things quietly and dutifully, I think there will be a collective WTF when people have to actually stop and think about the whole principle of monarchy and then consider Charles as the new monarch.

I also think we know far too much about Charles - the press will be full of black spider, tampons and whatever else they might have on him for the entire period preceding his coronation. He will have a struggle to come across as even remotely regal..,

RiverAB I hate to break this too you but Britain is still an overwhelming white country. The majority of non white people don't spend all their whinging about white privilege they are just busy getting on with their lives like everyone else.

Charles wont ever be King, he's too old now it will skip a generation. Mon King Billy.

I'm a republican. Think the Royals should be put out to pasture.

But I agree that there is a place for an actual apolitical head of state. When our PM was too scared to go and meet victims of the Grenfell fire, the Queen could. Harry's all over the veterans with disabilities. Diana made people with AIDS human to a lot of people who would never have without her.

The privilege stinks and the limp-wristed, clothes horse, smiling, chinless bullshit of the W and K roadshow makes me want to grab a pitchfork.

Charles wont ever be King, he's too old now it will skip a generation
It doesn't work that way

I'd like to see the monarchy abolished but all polls on the topic suggest that's the view of a relatively small minority. I imagine we'll get rid one day, but that might not be for a few generations yet.

It makes me viscerally angry, the thought of people being born into such immense privilege,

See.. I always find this statement and its variations ironic.

I suspect someone living in the 3rd world would feel the same about me and you.

I think they're slightly less popular in the polls than they were, Guepe? Though I wouldn't feel confident if we were to have a referendum on the subject now. Let's give Charles a couple of years as King first

Charles will be crowned King if he's 90, incontinent, dribbling and completely gaga. For the whole charade of a hereditary monarchy to continue. Once you start picking and choosing then the whole charade collapses.

BootCampSucker: I definitely agree about Charles having a hard time before any coronation . I reckon the media know already exactly how they will pull him to bits . But he must realise that , he's going to have to be very strong to ride that out prior to he's coronation .

I think if they want to carry on, they will have to massively slim down. Putting up with King Charles, will be bad enough without all of his aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces nephews etc. They need to follow Ann's DC, example and become normal, working people.

With that, they should then give back most of their palaces, houses etc.
I think, if that happened, the public may put up with them.

suspect someone living in the 3rd world would feel the same about me and you.
That's not the same at all, Emillee. Unelected, undemocratic head of state we're talking about here.

If Prince Charles says he doesn't want to be King then I think it will skip to William. I think Charles and the rest of the Royals realise he's tainted post Diana.

But Anne's DS made £700,000 from organising the Queens Diamond jubilee lunch . So he must of used he's connections to Royalty to get that sort of job .

I was talking to an Arabic friend a while ago about the Arab Spring. Countries that didn't have a revolution where the ones with a monarchy (somebody may come along and correct me). I asked her if she thought that might be one of the reasons, loyalty to a king. She didn't know if it would have been a factor or not.

Anyway, our monarchy, when I was younger I would have said abolish, now, I don't think it would be a good idea. Hope I'm not getting all right wing now I'm older :D

But Anne's DS made £700,000 from organising the Queens Diamond jubilee lunch

HOW much?

fakenamefornow that is in an interesting point re the Arab spring. Although of all the countries that would be likely to have had an Arab spring style revolution only Morocco has a King and they seem to be one of the more normal Arab countries.

I have a feeling we may be heading for some form of constitutional crisis when the Queen dies. Brexit, Trump, we're all used to shockers now, why not one more.

It's a completely different world from when she ascended to the thrown, and whilst she has got on with things quietly and dutifully, I think there will be a collective WTF when people have to actually stop and think about the whole principle of monarchy and then consider Charles as the new monarch.

But what do you foresee actually happening? A majority of the populace taking to the streets to demand an end to the monarchy? Because that's what it would take - and then some - to force any kind of change. No; there'll be a phone-in on BBC Breakfast along the lines of "Is the monarchy still relevant today?", and a few segments on the political talk shows, but I would not put money on any sort of popular uprising.

I would like to see the monarchy slowly abolished in an orderly fashion.

I really do not want it to occur at this point in time. My big fear is that as soon as the Queen dies, the British public will completely turn against the monarchy. The UK is too unstable and directionless at the moment.