To think that there should be laws about leggings?

[dadshere]

Just reading to my DD in the library. Mum with similar aged daughter is wearing black leggings. I say black but in fact they are closer to a little bit opaque, only a little mind. She is not wearing underwear. She is basically naked from the waist down, sitting four feet from me with her legs open whilst her dd sits on the floor listening to her read. I'm not even sure that they are leggings, they might be tights, they certainly couldn't be any tighter. I feel like I am being presented with a view that should be reserved for gynecologists, midwives and lovers.

Dd is 9 and starting to comment about clothes where arses are on show lol!

ParadiseCity
From your user name I take it you're a man? In future when looking at women my top tip is to look at them at face level. Hth.
ParadiseCity
TakeThat - I agree - but think OP is a man? Depressing either way.

No, last time I checked I wasn't, my profile clearly shows my gender I think. Either way, what difference would it have made? Can men not have opinions? So, it is ok for me as a woman to find it revolting, but a man would not be allowed an opinion?

The last thing I wanted when I decided to take my dd to the library today was to have a stranger sit legs akimbo four feet from me, with transparent leggings and no knickers. I don't want to see anyone else's genitals in the library.

Alright, alright. Honestly, I'm not trying to strart a row, I promise. I've got enough of them at home to mediate... anyway. To be fair Labia in the library is hilarious.

Just to add my replies, then I need to do one and hoover.

She said - It doesn't sound like the woman's intention was to walk around naked from the waist down. She wasn't naked, so that's something different. It sounds like a combination of a wardrobe malfunction / not realising how see through the clothes were. At worst, she intentionally realised they were see through and thought fuck it, no one is going to be staring into my fancy to see through my leggings. This is a VERY different conversation on intentional indecent exposure.

What makes me uncomfortable is the judgements being made about this woman. Really, do people care that much to catch a glimpse of a woman's privates THROUGH a pair of leggings. My initial point still stands - tolerance and an absolute suppport of women who have enough daily fucking shit thrown at them by laboratoir garnier about how they look the wrong way and need to spend their lives changing their clothes and way they look. Give the girl a break.

Flogging - comments expected - the point is I don't feel it's right even if it's expected. Even if this woman is breaking social norms I do t think the norms are correct and that's the point I'm taking.

Big up Paradise x

Christ OP if you are a man, I don't have time to write down my views on your post....... I'm starting to shake with rage. I can recommend some books on ethics, philosophy or feminism. Or I could just say, next time that happens look away and carry on with your life.

What's even more upsetting is people coming on saying leggings can only be worn as a tunic etc. Nothing personal to anyone poster) Declaring laws about what and how other women can wear clothes. LET WOMEN WEAR WHAT THE FUCK THEY LIKE. Why do you care what they wear. P,ease, please let's support each other's choices. Personal preference is great, we can like / dislike what we want, no need to all hold hands in top shop and sing Kumbaya, equally no need to run other women down for a possible wardrobe malfunction / style choice.

Right, it's hoovering time....

Peace x

Christ OP if you are a man, I don't have time to write down my views on your post....... I'm starting to shake with rage. I can recommend some books on ethics, philosophy or feminism. Or I could just say, next time that happens look away and carry on with your life.

OP isn't. Get a grip.

Sorry OP - thought you were a man.

Yes it makes a huge difference if that comment came from a man. Of course all humans regardless of gender or gender neutrality have valid views and freedoms of expression. There is a world of difference between men or women making these comments on a woman's possible wardrobe malfunction / appearance - Mostly but not exclusively down to society being patriarchal.

Honest, I really am going to hoover now .....

OP sorry for asking if you were a man - I have never looked at anyone's profile was just asking because of your user name.

Maniac, do you want to make a point?

Shaking with rage, TakeThat? Why, in the name of all that's holy?!
Please, please let's support each other's choices
You did actually read the op, didn't you? Library Lady's choice was see through leggings without knickers, with a hole in the crotch for good measure.
Why should this be "supported"?! By who?

TakeThatFuckingDressOffNow-

This is not a feminist issue, it is a quetion of decency and consideration for others. Would you be happy for a man to have his thing on display in a library? It is the same. When I dress, my first thought is comfort, but I also think about context. Yes my p.js are comfortable, but should I wear them to pick up my dd from school? Maybe not a good choice.

Thank you for your kind offer to recommend some reading material, please do. Also, if you are actually 'starting to shake with rage' as you posted, please allow me to recommend that you seek professional help. Getting into a state over a post on MN, concerning two women you will never meet, about clothing and decency in a public library is worrying. Consider reducing your caffeine intake, I also find yoga to help.

Take that - I'm a feminist too, but I still don't want to see someone's labia in the library, or anywhere else

And because I'm a feminist and believe in equality of the sexes, I don't want men to wear see through trousers either or see their cock in the library*

*other places may apply

Ok Takethat so if a man was in the library with see through leggings and no boxers this would also be ok then ?

ParadiseCity and TakeThatFuckingDressOffNow, my username is a joke, I also call my dh the invisibe man. I am not offended, so no need to apologise.

I'm sure most of the people that do this don't look at themselves from behind in the mirror .

It does seem to be the outfit of choice round here - see through primark leggings and teeny tiny top .
And even smaller thong .

In town once DS took great delight in pointing out that he could see someone's bottom. Very loudly . She didn't even seem bothered .

Who knew a thread about leggings, could get so heated 🤔

Redjoker- that may have been my ex-flatmate. White see through leggings and bright pink thing was a favourite of hers.

Spelling mistakes in this thread have really cheered me up on a down day. "White leggings and a pink thing" anyone??!

dadshere...I have thought about it lots and lots. I dont particularily get on with teacher and have had a few complaints a few times so worry she would just see it as being bitchy.

She is very friendly with the HT...small school of only 5 classes and I had really hoped as her friend the HT would have a word.

We had the glory of an incredibly short cream see through dress at the leavers dinner...I thought she wasn't wearing pants at first until I realise we could all see the lacy band of her thong and the mole on her arse...

Yeah ... erm I'm really sorry to wade in with more serious stuff on a lighthearted thread but this ...

saw a lady today wearing see through leggings with I kid you not!! 2 holes one in each of her bum cheeks, also not wearing underwear. I didn't want to look but it was right in front of my face ! All I can suggest is maybe mental illness ?!! 😬

Can we not do this please? Just make casual throw away comments about mental illness. You know, all those crazy people waving their fanjos about.

(Not trying to be an arse, said with kindness, but please don't use mental illness as a derogatory term, thanks )

Who's having labiainthelibrary for a user name then?

This is not a feminist issue, it is a quetion of decency and consideration for others

What is "decent" re womens clothes and what isn't is a feminist issue. How much consideration women need to give to others when they dress themselves is a feminist issue.
Whether women have to consider the feelings of others with their clothing choices is a feminist issue.

till - oops .. Thought it was obvious that it was meant to read as thong. I have fat-finger-syndrome

itstoolateforthisbollox
What is "decent" re womens clothes and what isn't is a feminist issue. How much consideration women need to give to others when they dress themselves is a feminist issue.
Whether women have to consider the feelings of others with their clothing choices is a feminist issue.

It really isn't, unless someone is saying that men have different rules applied to them with regards to their genitals being on show. TBH I would be even more revolted at seeing a willy in the library, and would have said something to the staff.

Regardless of gender, we all should consider how we impact other people. Like I said previously, although my p.js are the most comfortable clothes I own, I only wear them in the house as they are a little bit too revealing for public decency.

@2furbabies

I realise your post is intended to be lighthearted, but the causal "mental illness" comment isn't ok really.

Other than that....I wear leggings but always get my DD to check if they're see-through before I go out. This requires me bending over and saying "can you see anything!?" To which my horrified 13 yo will give me an honest reply 😂

OP has said she wouldn't have wanted to see a penis through transparent clothing either, so I don't read this as a feminist issue.

The woman probably didn't know, but many on here are now never not likely to risk leggings without other layers.

Going back to the humour orginally suggested in the title, can we just have a 'genitals aren't visible mirror check before leaving house' law?

It really isn't, unless someone is saying that men have different rules applied to them with regards to their genitals being on show

Men have different rules for absolutely everything.