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Sean's gone. It's sad. Great guy. Going to miss him.Trump continued

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orlantina · 22/07/2017 22:26

New thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2977693-The-thread-where-we-meet-to-discuss-the-unfolding-Trump-administration-catastrophe-but-end-up-discussing-adoptions-from-Russia?msgid=70627530

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BossyBitch · 28/07/2017 22:42

What I mean is, how can a retired General help Trump politically or with relationships with Congress and the GOP?

Personal assessment (and I may be very wrong): he possibly can't much, but that doesn't matter. Trump wants people who'll be loyal to him above all. He doesn't really care about the party of political clout. That's because he's fundamentally misunderstanding the structure of government and his own role as president.

He basically thinks his job is like that of a CEO. Except he also misunderstands what a CEO really does. The Trump Organisation is more like an oversized family business than like an actual corporation, where even CEOs aren't free to act like dictators.

He doesn't get on some very basic level, that being president is not like being a mob boss where everyone follows your orders. And that's why he'll pick people not for their suitability but based on how likely he thinks they are to agree to place horse heads into beds ...

See his recent beef with Sessions who - albeit a horrible person and someone I've arguably never agreed on a single policy position with - is basically qualified for his job. But he recused himself from the Russia investigation (correctly so!) and thus showed disloyalty. Hence the recent public dressing down.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 28/07/2017 22:43

we need to fill this thread up asap as the title is already old Confused

orlantina · 28/07/2017 22:43

I can only imagine what it must have been like working for Trump in the business world.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/07/2017 22:44

John Harwood
John Harwood @JohnJHarwood
Ryan-Priebus ally tells me Trump is moving toward "an independent WH" untethered from the Republican Party

cozietoesie · 28/07/2017 22:45

That would put Sessions at risk.

orlantina · 28/07/2017 22:45

Ryan-Priebus ally tells me Trump is moving toward "an independent WH" untethered from the Republican Party

Good thing the US has checks and balances?

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SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 28/07/2017 22:46

I agree with you Bossy.

But could this misunderstanding be Trump' s undoing?

cozietoesie · 28/07/2017 22:46

My apologies for the peaism there, NorthWest. Smile

OhYouBadBadKitten · 28/07/2017 22:46

do the GOP feel stupid yet?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/07/2017 22:46

The "independent" presents a horrifying selection of dictator like scenarios.

BossyBitch · 28/07/2017 22:47

Trump is moving toward "an independent WH" untethered from the Republican Party

Point in case. He doesn't understand that he will be unable to act without the backing of his party. It's not as though he's likely to start forming ad-hoc, issue based bipartisan alliances and he needs Congress. But he doesn't really understand this. At all.

cozietoesie · 28/07/2017 22:48

I would love to know what F&F and Breitbart are saying about all this. I just don't want to give them any clicks.

cozietoesie · 28/07/2017 22:49

Has Mr Pence commented at all?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/07/2017 22:50

Priebus will be on fox and friends tonight

OhYouBadBadKitten · 28/07/2017 22:50

breitbart headline.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 28/07/2017 22:52

main text

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Lweji · 28/07/2017 22:53

Damn pizza that arrived at the crucial moment.

Bye Priebus.

I wonder about the replacement. The Gooch? A Gooch clone?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 28/07/2017 22:54

scaramucci headline

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Lweji · 28/07/2017 22:54

Oh, it's John Kelly.

The JK I know would be very, very far from working for Trump, though. Grin

OhYouBadBadKitten · 28/07/2017 22:57

that article

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 28/07/2017 22:58

final bit .

Now, 'scuse me I need to go and scrub my ipad.

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cozietoesie · 28/07/2017 23:00

Bleach.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 28/07/2017 23:07
Grin
lionheart · 28/07/2017 23:11

I can remember a poll that was taken at the height of West Wing popularity and the result was that the majority would have voted for President Bartlet. Smile

cozietoesie · 28/07/2017 23:18

I see that John Delaney has announced a 2020 run? That make him the first, I think?

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