It's a smoking outside one...

[DoggettandBoo]

Yep, that time of year!!

Went for an early evening trip to a local child friendly pub, me, dd and dh. As schools out it seemed like everyone else had the same idea and there were limited outside tables so we asked if we could join on the bench of another family who had finished eating. They were fine about it till dh started rolling a cig and the other Dad went 'woah, not here mate, we're eating'. I'd be more understanding if they were but it was clearly plates of abandoned food and the kids were playing over on the climbing frame. Dh pointed this out but got up and went to smoke a few metres away and there was no trouble.

I'm not a smoker and I'm not sure how I feel about the whole thing. I think everyone has the right to smoke outside but we had jumped on 'their' table so maybe it's a bit different. Dh was really fucked off but didn't say anything directly. Just moaned and sulked on the walk home to me. I can see both sides tbh.

From my PoV your dp was unreasonable. Me and dp smoke but would walk away from everybody eating to smoke in this situation. It's not fair on others to breath in our smoke.

I agree it smells and isn't all that nice too near but it's not a health issue outside. Roll ups aren't as bad for you as tailors and they don't smell as much. Not saying they not bad for you though!

I'll try to get him to start moving away when people are eating if it's that unanimous.

Of course it's a health issue outside. If you're breathing smoke in someone's face, what does it matter if you're inside or outside??

Your dh is disgusting, bratty and unreasonable. Hth

Your dh should have stood away from people eating.
If it was your own table there is no law against smoking even if people are eating on other tables.
The other people should leave their table and stand with their children when playing and free up the table for others.
I think both people were rude tbh.

I agree it smells and isn't all that nice too near but it's not a health issue outside

Of course it is. Breathing in smoke is breathing in smoke, whether you're in or out.

The other people should leave their table and stand with their children when playing and free up the table for others.

No they shouldn't. They might well have had a drink on the go.

Really?! I was told it's only bad for other people indoors.

"The other people should leave their table and stand with their children when playing and free up the table for others"

Why??

They might not have had a drink on the go as well.
Smoking aside it's rude and bad form to carry on hogging a table when you have finished eating. Others were probably waiting to sit down and eat.

I wouldn't smoke in a pub garden with kids in. Child friendly means non smoking to me. Baffles my brain that there are people who think like your DH to be honest, let alone at someone else's table.

What do you mean it's not a health issue outside? people are still inhaling second hand smoke

I'm quite sensitive to it now as my lungs are already full of (bowel) cancer, so they are not working as well as they used to and really don't need the added hassle of someone else's disgusting habit. I'd need to move away if someone was smoking nearby even if it was outside.

There are all sorts of health conditions that could be affected by smoke.

yabvvu.

Is this a joke? you joined their table. Your dh was so rude to do that.

For me it's not even about the health issue ffs.

It's about it being massively inconsiderate and very fucking selfish to impose a smelly, horrible fog on people who don't like it.

I am a smoker, but I hate people smoking near me when I'm trying to eat.

And as I said upthread, this makes me think non smokers must hate it even more!

Imove as far away as possible from eaters and kids for a fag at the pub, even if this means crossing the road.

Oh and my Dad hasa chronic lung condition, and doessn't go the pub much, but even smoke right next to him outside makes him ill.

Tell your DH to stop being so fucking selfish.

Really?! I was told it's only bad for other people indoors.

Who the hell told you that? Don't suppose it was your DH by any chance?

Smoke in the lungs is smoke in the lungs, doesn't matter if it happens inside or outdoors

It isn't rude to ask to share a table, but to attempt to light up whilst sitting next to others (regardless of who got there first) is unbelievably rude, surely your DH and you must realise that?

I bet he got sulky and pissed off because he does realise and is embarrassed at being pulled up on it.

Different table is fine. Same table that you're on and they've tagged on is fine. Joining their table.. Not fine.

Your husband ibu.
I'm an ex smoker. Before the ban I would never smoke inside nor outside near people who were sat at a table whether food was involved or not. It was my opinion that it was my choice to smoke no one else's.
I'd have said something to your h too.

Pmsl, does the smoke lose its properties because it is outside?

Smoke near others is rude, whether they are eating or not.

Had he actually lit up or been clearly about to light up? Cause if not it's a bit dickish to jump in like that when someone's just rolling up - most people I know prefer to roll on a table then move elsewhere to smoke it.

You can't join someone else's table and start smoking without asking first. I wouldn't even ask TBH. No one wants that.

" but I think it would have been fine if we had a bench to ourselves even if there are kids and people eating there"

God no!

Why would you think that it's OK to smoke where people are eating?

I know it would be legal, but even so.

Does he have no thought for others at all?

Tbh I think that it's disgusting that smoking is allowed outside in public places.

Sharing the table is not relevant as there were no others available. Frankly it's disgusting even to think it's right to smoke where other people are and more so is they are eating.

I can't believe you or your DH think this is right.

In this situation, my friend and I always ask if the other people would mind if we smoke, even if no one is eating. If they said they did we wouldn't smoke. Simple.

No one in the world needs to smoke right this second. You can wait. If you are that desperate then you get off your arse and move.