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To think helping one person out financially doesn't mean I have to help everyone?

115 replies

OreosAreLovely · 18/07/2017 11:47

Hello, hoping for some advice.
My mum who lives in my home country (the uk) has struggled a fair bit recently.
Her income dropped considerably and she ended up in a big cycle of debt. She was forced to move due to bedroom tax and her new home was completely bare floored etc. she couldn't afford carpets and was already sinking because of everything (credit cards a catalogue etc) and moving costs.
So I helped her out, ordered her a few bits and pieces and paid someone to carpet her bedroom, put Lino down in the living room and bathroom.
I'm about to finish this off for her by paying for her hallway carpet and my young siblings bedroom carpet and buying him some new sensory things (he has ASD).
On top of this I pay her (very low) weekly rent, chunks off the biggest of her 3 debts and a monthly shop so all she has to buy is bread/milk and fresh things.

I'm not looking for criticism on what I do for my mum she is an amazing woman and I wouldn't be where I am today without her help... she is hardworking and generous and has helped me in the past too. I consider her my best friend.
My sister on the other hand... well we'll see what you think.
Works 15-30hrs per week her partner works full time, 1DC. No childcare costs and as far as I'm aware they're ticking along nicely.
Today she messages me and says the following (copied and pasted but names removed)
"Hello Oreos.
I'm really unhappy about something...
you offer all this help to mum but none to me!
We'd like to come out and see you but can't really afford that what with (dh expensive hobby) and saving for a holiday for ourselves. Offering to pay for this would be nice but no you don't offer anything! Mums told me all about the things you do for her, my carpet is almost 8 years old I could do with a replacement too but yet again you don't offer this. Why do you want to see me struggling?"...
was I justified in my response of
"Hi sister name.
It's difficult for me to see where you're coming from.
I'd be happy to consider helping you if you asked for my help or were indeed in need of it.
I think having extreme financial difficulties cannot be compared to saving for a holiday or (her dh name) spending x amount on (hobby). Rest assured that if you had lost 25%+ of your income and was forced into spending £1000 on moving into a home you couldn't afford to furnish I'd be the first person there to help, but you're not, so I don't get where you're coming from"

Sister has always been quite entitled (think asking for £7000, which is a lot to me, for Christmas Hmm ) and when I gave her young son a birthday card with £200 she questioned why I couldn't afford/didn't spend more... so this may colour my opinions drastically.

So was i being unreasonable in my response and would you be bothered if your sister or brother was helping out a relative a lot but didn't offer you help?

OP posts:
FishInAWetSuitAndFlippers · 18/07/2017 11:50

Bloody hell Shock

I'm actually speechless at the brass neck of the woman.

YA most definitely NBU at all.

OuchBollocks · 18/07/2017 11:51

£200 for a nephew? Demanding you give her thousands of pounds and carpet her house? Hahaha she's a piss taking arse of the highest order! MN really does need it's own 'Cheeky Fuckers' topic. Your sister would fit right in with WORKzilla and the rest.

NicolasFlamel · 18/07/2017 11:52

😂 is she for real?! I don't think I'd have even dignified it with a response.

SloanePeterson · 18/07/2017 11:52

Fucking hell. My jaw actually dropped. £7000 as a Christmas present? Wtf. Ignore ignore ignore. The bloody cheek of the woman.

LuxuryWoman2017 · 18/07/2017 11:53

You honestly need to ask?

Justhadmyhaircut · 18/07/2017 11:54

Entitled relative if the week award in order. .
Maybe a badge. .
Sounds like your dm needed that hand up and you were able to give it. .

Sounds like your dsis needs to bugger off. .
Giving her ds £200 was over and above as it is!!

Foniks · 18/07/2017 11:55

Wow. I'd begrudge doing anything for anybody with that sort of attitude. Why would she think she's entitled to this from you? She's absolutely crazy.

OreosAreLovely · 18/07/2017 11:56

Yes luxury as ive now been given a barrage of abuse (i won't post it here as it contains too much of my personal info) I had started to question myself a little bit, not about the carpets but thinking I should've maybe offered to pay for some cheap flights here. But then I realised that flying all of the family over is costly (3dcs and 6 adults) and it's more cost effective for me to go over and I also have an easier job of getting time off (self employed)... still was questioning myself a bit though. Blush sorry if I'm being stupid I do have issues being a bit of a people pleaser

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KC225 · 18/07/2017 11:58

200 quid for a nephew. I spent that between twins and they are mine.

Your sister sounds awful. I admire your restraint. I would have been a lot more forthright.

PsychoPumpkin · 18/07/2017 11:58

You're doing something amazing for your mum & sibling, that's wonderful!

Your sister can jog on, back to whatever planet she came from.

LuxuryWoman2017 · 18/07/2017 11:59

You're not being stupid but your sister has an amazing sense of entitlement.
You are quite right of course

EssentialHummus · 18/07/2017 11:59

Wow. No, you don't need to help her. Your reply was spot on. Mum needs your help, which is a very different situation!

WankYouForTheMusic · 18/07/2017 11:59

You weren't unreasonable in your response.

I don't think the idea of helping out a sibling if you're very financially well off is an outrageous one, and I'd have been receptive to the idea of paying for their flights to visit you if you could easily afford it, if she hadn't just been such an arsewipe. But it's the idea that she's entitled to it. And also she thinks, I presume, that you're psychic: is there any reason for her to suppose you're aware of the ongoing state of her carpets anyway?

Although, if 7k is loads to you, then it sounds like you couldn't really afford to do it anyway? It sounds like the help you give your mum might only amount to a couple of grand when she was really in the shit and maybe £500 a month now. I'm not saying that's not significant, but it's also something a person could do without being wadded. You might be only modestly comfortable and still able to afford what you do for your mum- it doesn't mean you'd have 7k hanging around the place for gifts!

swingofthings · 18/07/2017 12:00

Are you super rich or what? I think you are being used all around. I suspect your mum income is probably higher than you think but she's given you the sob story to get your cash too.

In the end though, you give what you want to who you want, that's the freedom you've earned.

Softkitty2 · 18/07/2017 12:01

Please please please don't cave in. She is asking you to fund her non essential luxuries just because you have the money
She is an entitled b*tch imo.

The situation between your mother and sister are totally different.

Stand your ground.

RoboticSealpup · 18/07/2017 12:02

I don't think I would contact that weirdo again until she realises she's wrong. Which may very well be never...

But perhaps ask your DM not to share so many details with your sister.

Redsippycup · 18/07/2017 12:03

Completely ignoring the grabby cheeky fucker ness for a minute -

Why is she saying she can't afford to come and see you because she is saving for a holiday? Most people would consider visiting family abroad a holiday, surely?!

Hortonlovesahoo · 18/07/2017 12:03

Oreos: your 'D'S is the unreasonable one here! How dare she! I'm guessing she's not helped out your mum either?

If she cares so much about seeing you, she'd come to you

putdownyourphone · 18/07/2017 12:03

What the actual?! So she can't afford a carpet because she's saving for a holiday and her DH has an expensive hobby? So then expects you to pay?? Jeez. Also, I'm presuming your mum fed/clothed/housed you for a good chunk of your life, has your sis ever done this for you?

Foslady · 18/07/2017 12:03

To use the wonderful line off another thread

I think someone left the gate open on Cheeky Fucker Land

You owe her nothing

OreosAreLovely · 18/07/2017 12:06

7k is a fair bit to me,
If there was a real reason why she needed it I'd have parted with it gladly. But for a random gift she can whistle for it.

swing may I ask where you got that idea from?

robotic I know how she found out, she kept pressing my mum on how she could afford to get x y and z done and then asked her for money, so my mum just said she had no money I'd paid for it.

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chips4teaplease · 18/07/2017 12:06

Milch cow.
Don't be one for your sister. Helping your mum out, and your sibling with disabilities, that's a bit different but even so you must keep a balance, remembering your first duty is to yourself. No-one tells you that growing up.

OrangeButton · 18/07/2017 12:06

Even if you have millions, she's unbelievably entitled. You're not obliged to spend money on anyone, it's yours to do what you like with. And you're right that there's a difference between your mother's and her situation.

She seems to view your money as "family" money.

Just don't read her messages if you're getting abuse from her and don't give her any money at all anyway.

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 18/07/2017 12:11

Cheeky bint

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 18/07/2017 12:12

Tell you sister she is a scrounger.

I don't know how she has the nerve.

Are you fantastically rich op? If so, I could do with a few bits. Nothing very expensive to you... Wink