Irrational Judgy Pants thread.

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I've got new neighbours. I really doubt they are my kind of people. They've got a glittery toilet seat.

What makes you hoik up your Irrational Judgy Pants?

How about 'AIBU to judge judgy people?'

I'm talking more about the attitude towards education.

People who have joint Facebook accounts. Like SamandMel Smith, who then post and nobody knows who they are. Just get separate accounts - we know at least one of you doesn't trust the other, so don't bother telling me how PERFECT and amazeballs your husband/wife is.

I think this is my place - I agree with SO many of these. I didn't realise I was so Judgy.

People who cook the recommended amount of pasta. 70g does not a meal make, ffs

People are linking poor grammar and spelling with poverty and social issues.

This is surely a way of saying working class and/or poor people don't place a high value on education isn't it? If so, then why?

I am guilty of a lot of these things! I had no idea how many people were silently judging me. Oh well, at least I make people feel better about themselves.

I judge people who give young children (so under 10s) Coca-Cola.

People who behave like absolute arseholes and embarrass themselves and upset everyone when they drink too much. I don't mean those who do it occasionally because they've misjudged the amount they've drunk (I've done it myself) or those who are alcoholics (they need support, not judgement). I mean people who binge drink every couple of weeks and behave like arseholes every time. If you know you always get pissed and act like an arse, don't drink!!!!

I have SamAndMel as well ButtMuncher. SamAndMel often has long conversations on their wall about how they both love each other. Or well, SamAndMel relly loves SamAndMel and SamAndMel really really loves their darling SamAndMel too.
I expect a divorce in a year or so..

Ugg boots. Absolutely hate them.

You could be Mother Teresa, but if you're wearing Ugg boots you would get told to fuck off (inside my head).

They're just AWFUL.

I'm talking more about the attitude towards education
What you are talking is uninformed bollocks.
What was that you said about there being no excuse for ignorance? With all those websites and online information resources

Re: School shoes

I wish parents would stop buying ballerina pumps as a school shoe and expecting that it's a suitable option.
Ballerina pumps offer no support at all and put unneeded pressure on your hips, knees and back.

It's not something I judge, but as someone with arthritis it really upsets me to see.

Formerbabe: low aspirations, labelling/self fulfilling prophecy, low self esteem, material deprivation (no computer, internet access, revision guides, no English or Maths private tutoring), parents and grandparents who had bad experiences of education and therefore don't want to/can't engage with their children's education. To name a few reasons.

"This is surely a way of saying working class and/or poor people don't place a high value on education isn't it? If so, then why?"

This is something you should probably explore via sociology book rather than on MN, but I think some parts of the working class (and the middle class too!) don't value education because it hasn't worked for the vast majority of the people they know. If everyone you know who has a degree works in a call centre, you would be quite right to doubt the value of academic education over practical skills.

This is from the 70s, but still relevant I think en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_to_Labour

Formerbabe: low aspirations, labelling/self fulfilling prophecy, low self esteem, material deprivation (no computer, internet access, revision guides, no English or Maths private tutoring), parents and grandparents who had bad experiences of education and therefore don't want to/can't engage with their children's education.

Ok, then I judge people who don't want to engage with their child's education... Massively so.

Katharina - same here, they're always having arguments as well, and then one will log into their separate FB account (???) to put 'their' side of the story before the post gets deleted

Not everyone receives the education they are entitled to. Plenty of kids have serious attendance issues due to abuse/neglect, homelessness, being a carer, serious illness, or bullying. Plenty of kids are raised with no books, no access to a place to study and do homework, no help or support outside of school. There are kids who are not in receipt of any education whatsoever which is technically illegal, and the authorities don't even notice.

If you don't have an adult in your home at basic level of interest and competency, it's almost impossible to thrive in school.

For example my old secondary school had a policy that all assignments done outside of class had to be signed by a parent/guardian or it would not be accepted and marked. This meant any child who didn't have decent parents was automatically discriminated against. I was academically 'gifted' (now have a PhD, and am a published author) yet during the 5 months I was at that school my grades were low purely because none of my homework assignments were ever accepted. I was also sent home from school regularly due to not having access to the correct uniform.

You know, talking about people mispronouncing words. It took me years to realise that "Siobhan" and "Sha-vaughn" (pronunciation) were the same name. All those years of calling the girl out of Bananarama "Syoban"!

Not everyone receives the education they are entitled to. Plenty of kids have serious attendance issues due to abuse/neglect, homelessness, being a carer, serious illness, or bullying. Plenty of kids are raised with no books, no access to a place to study and do homework, no help or support outside of school. There are kids who are not in receipt of any education whatsoever which is technically illegal, and the authorities don't even notice

I'm not denying any of this affects education.

However the number of people I see who don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" is staggering and can't all be put down to social issues and poverty. I genuinely believe the younger generations actually view spelling/grammar as less important than previous generations did. I also believe "text speak" has created a culture of laziness around the written word.

**Ok, then I judge people who don't want to engage with their child's education... Massively so.

That's fine, just don't judge the innocent children on their poor grammar in later life.

People who name their DD Nevaeh. I instantly think 'chav'. I know chav is a horrid word I don't use it in rl but I think it...

There's a fascinating Douglas Coupland short story that explores the influence of txtspk on language evolution. I'm working on a major project right now investigating sign and non-verbal language communities.

I put a high priority on correct use of language, but it is possible we're on the cusp of a major language change. In a few centuries English as we know it could turn into something like Latin. It's sad but fascinating. (The same way it's fascinating why we can understand Shakespeare so much more easily than Chaucer). I'm not disagreeing because I hate seeing all this their/there stuff too, but all languages evolve and English more than most. That's why English is more beautiful and powerful than languages that are more strictly controlled (imo).

Ok, then I judge people who don't want to engage with their child's education... Massively so

That isnt what you were doing.

Yes, I am aware of what you are describing in terms of evolution of language.

However...

You're/your
Too/to
Their/there/they're

are there for a purpose. When used incorrectly can make the sentence mean something else entirely.

Ohwhatfuckeryisthisnow, he's profoundly disabled and eats soil and plants and gets distressed about it.

Sorry for the off-topic.

I unreasonably judge people who can't cook (without any barriers to being able to). Able bodied, affluent adults who simply have no idea how to cook anything and no interest in learning.

Crocs.

This one specific style of top that is faux peasant-style with white bordering separating your tits. So unflattering!

People who queue for hours at the airport when it's assigned seating.

People who let their children play on scooters in supermarkets.