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treehugs · 15/07/2017 08:40

Okay, so I know I am being unreasonable. I am posting for some hope that there is hope.

I can't stand my step daughters. To the point where I dread them even talking to me or being in the same room. They are nice children so it is not them - it is 100% me.

There is so much back story. My DP and I first got together 9 years ago and the majority of our relationship has been based on lies around his ex wife and children. I literally had my heart torn out and ripped to shreds. He left me heartbroken many times. During this time I really wanted a relationship with the kids but was never allowed. It created a massive barrier between us. I spent many Christmas days crying and alone because I would get let down by him. Not just Christmas - there have been many times similar.
During this time I also was raped (not by DP). But due to circumstances surrounding it I didn't feel able to report it. DP and I have never really spoke about it properly.

Now everything is great between DP and I. We have a great relationship, our own DD and no more ex wife issues and the kids stay every other weekend.

The problem is that I can't stand them being in my house, I have no interest in talking to them or spending time with them. I dread the time they spend with us. I am not horrible to them but I am not my usual friendly happy self when they are here.

I hate myself for it. I hate feeling this way about innocent children. But I can't snap out of it. I have tried so hard but the feeling are always there. I even hate them touching my DD.

I also have emetophobia which is much worse when they stay. I have had hypnotherapy which hasn't worked but has helped me understand it a bit more.

My hypnotherapist said that he thinks that all the things I have been through in the relationship have manifested itself into resentment towards his children.

I can quite believe this. I don't want to leave the relationship I just want to know if there is hope of changing my mindset towards his children.

Sorry for the long post and thank you for reading.

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Pengggwn · 15/07/2017 09:37

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ConstanceCraving · 15/07/2017 09:39

How old are they?

Saiman · 15/07/2017 09:39

So on christmas day he spent the day with his kids?

Or saw them then went home on his own?

She didnt want you looking after them alone? Thats not that unusual. Lots of mothers wouldnt want that. Their time with their dad is to spend time with their dad. Not his girlfriend.

How old are the kids?

Saiman · 15/07/2017 09:40

Also you are still making excuses for him.

Its all someone elses fault.

If you genuinely believe that why did it rip you apart? If you knew he was doing for his kids

Kittychatcat · 15/07/2017 09:43

Your stepchildren are not the problem. They haven't done anything wrong or let you down. It's probably safer to hate them than your DP because once you accept how awful things are with him it will lead to a break up. He isn't a great father because his lack of respect and honesty harmed his ex, you and his DC. Marriages often break up but decent, kind men don't lie, cheat or mess with their partner's head.

Your DP has treated you very badly and you should have left the relationship the first time he hurt you so badly. What you need to ask yourself is why are you prepared to stay with someone who can treat you badly? It sounds like you need therapy to deal with the rape, emetephobia and finding the strength to leave a toxic relationship.

ConstanceCraving · 15/07/2017 09:43

He left me heartbroken many times. During this time I really wanted a relationship with the kids but was never allowed

You're hating the wrong people here.

treehugs · 15/07/2017 09:44

They are 10, 12 and 13.

They are nice kids. More tomboyish. They love my DD.

Re Christmas. No, kids were away with ex wife and her family and he was going to spend it with me.

Re being alone. He was there, I was in another room drawing with the youngest one and apparently that was inappropriate (little girl told her mum - I can only assume she was quizzed over it) then we got the threats if it happens again etc..

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grannytomine · 15/07/2017 09:44

They are your DDs sisters, you know none of this is their fault. How old is your DD? If she is very young maybe things will improve as she forms a relationship with them?

Zoflorabore · 15/07/2017 09:45

Hi op I was initially horrified by your op but actually think you're pretty brave to have posted how you feel, and to admit it can't have been easy.

What stands out to me is that you say they are nice children. Total armchair diagnosis here ( hate that phrase ) but maybe it's that you don't actually hate the children? You hate what they represent and that it's taking you back to when you were at a bad place in your life.
Could be that there is a slight jealousy issue? Very common in step families.
In order to have a healthy relationship with dp going forward you will have to make an effort, it will cause so much resentment otherwise.
You did their room and bought them pyjamas, it's a step in the right direction.

Imo you need to address what it is that you associate these children with and deal with that. It is not fair on them but I'm sure you know that already.
Imagine if this was your dd and how you would feel if someone felt like that about her. It's not too late to turn things around Flowers

treehugs · 15/07/2017 09:46

DD is 16 months.

I know you all think he is the bad guy and yes at times he has been. But we all found ourselves in a situation that none of us really knew how to deal with.

He is honestly a kind and decent man.

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Pengggwn · 15/07/2017 09:47

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treehugs · 15/07/2017 09:47

You are right Zoflora. 100%

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Underthemoonlight · 15/07/2017 09:47

How old are the kids?You harbour resentment which even your therapist has said is misplaced you need to address this with your dp. You chosen to have a child with his man when you dislike his existing children even to the point of not wanting to touch your child. This built of resentment isn't over night it's over several years. You freely admit they haven't done anything wrong (not that children do anything to deserve bad behaviour from an adult). Don't be fooled these DC will pick up on your distain for them it's totally unfair. Either you fake it to make it or you do the decent thing walk away no child should have to put up with being mistreated by a step parent for simply existing it's extremely damaging for them. I'm sorry what happened to you but you need to get some counselling inregards to that

Aeroflotgirl · 15/07/2017 09:49

YOu do need to talk about it, or is will eat away at you. YOu need individual therapy to help you through that, and both couples counselling and individual counselling.

Saiman · 15/07/2017 09:49

Re Christmas. No, kids were away with ex wife and her family and he was going to spend it with me.

So assuming he believed her threat. And did dare tell her to piss off. Why didnt he just spend it with you anyway? How would she have known?

Besides which if you agree he was doing it to protect his kids, why would it rip you apart?

Their kids were very young at that point. The youngest less than a year old? Is it possible she thought you were an OW?

LazyDailyMailJournos · 15/07/2017 09:50

Try and find something about each child to focus on and build something around that. You need to try and find a shared interest to focus on - which will give you something to talk about and hopefully help break the barriers down.

If you are insistent on not leaving your partner, then you need to do this. The kids have done nothing wrong and trust me, they will know that you don't like them. Do you have any idea what it must be like for them to spend time in their Dad's home with a Stepmum who resents them for even existing? How would you feel if it was your child in that situation?

I'm afraid I don't agree that your DP is now a great man. 'Great men' weren't previously arseholes who let people down, left them crying etc. I get the point about him trying to protect the children - but given that they now have to spend time with a Stepmum who dislikes them it hasn't worked out that way, has it? He took the easy route by pandering to his Ex. But it's your bed and you're lying in it.

Bluntness100 · 15/07/2017 09:55

I think think possibly th children remind you he had another life, another family and you'd prefer it was just you him and your daughter, and you resent giving up weekends of what you see as family life to inc his other children, so you resent the kids, who have done nothing wrong.

Clearly any decent person needs a relationship with their kids and as such he is prob decent. you need to accept he is always going to be a father to three other children other than yours, and he will always have them in his life. I would really try to embrace it, because in not doing so you will possibly damage your relationship with him,

And then yes, some other woman may be the step mum to yours. And yes, all four of them, your partner and his kids, will know exactly how you feel, it won't be hidden.

treehugs · 15/07/2017 09:57

I understand that you would think he is not a great man. He is great to me and I know his and he is my DP so I know that he is not a bad person now.

People's hearts get ripped to shreds not always through someone deliberately trying to hurt them.

Okay so.. DSD1 is into Justin Beiber and is very responsible for her age. DSD2 is really into her pets and I entered hers into a pet contest last year with her and hers won. DSD3 is into playing shops and also likes shopkins. She use to help me cook dinner too.

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eatabagofdicks · 15/07/2017 09:59

Have a read of this OP. This was written by someone on Facebook who has step children, I was a step child (still am) and it feels terrible not to be wanted. The impact of your behaviour on these kids will be huge.

www.facebook.com/PartTimeWorkingMummy

Being a step parent....

I get messages daily asking me 'how I do it'. People wondering how our patchwork family always looks so rosy.

Let me tell you how...

Once upon a time I was a 4 year old girl who became another woman's full-time step-daughter.
I was a step-daughter that wasn't wanted, I was unloved and it was made known to me.
My siblings & I would sob because we missed our mum, my brother & I would repeatedly wet the bed with night terrors & instead of being comforted we would be disciplined. We weren't hugged or kissed by our step-mother nor did we ever hear the words "I love you" from her.
We were treated so differently to her biological children who we had to watch come in & take over our family home. Her biological children who, looking back, were probably as confused as us at why their mother suddenly gained four new children.
I grew with a broken heart and once I became a teenager that broken heart turned to anger, and I rebelled.
I rebelled so much that by the time I was taken into Foster Care I was so broken I didn't understand how I should think & feel anymore.
I rebelled as a teenager by taking Class A drugs and going to raves rather than revising for exams...and instead of sitting those exams I got involved in underage relationships with older men under some illusion I would receive the love that by then I desperately craved. I rebelled so much I ended up making so many life mistakes that sometimes I am amazed I'm still here to write these posts.

I remember being laid on my bottom bunk bed as an innocent five year old, to being laid in a pull out bed in my foster home as a damaged fifteen year old always making the same promise - that what ever children I ended up having in my life - be it step, foster or biological...whether it was my nieces, nephews or family friends babies I would love them. I would always show them love & affection, no matter what.

So that's what I do....

At times being a step-parent is the hardest, most challenging job in the world and I get emails every single day from men & women who feel they can no longer do it.
There is no time for that honeymoon period you would get in a relationship where there is no children. The honeymoon period where you spend days and days together doing what you want when you want because there are already tiny humans that you haven't even met that come before you.
We then go on to raise children that at times are hard work, that love to remind us we are not their real mum or dad. We can feel like they truly hate us and go out of their way to cause us nothing but upset & heart ache.
You can have huge issues with your step-child's biological parent which in itself can bring massive problems into your relationship.
If you have your own babies at times you can feel like they come second best and you feel guilt towards them that you are getting it all wrong.
We are being watched and judged and looked at on how we do things and the minute we make a mistake we are crucified.
We feel taken for granted & ultimately as step-parents we don't get any recognition that actually, we're doing a good job.

But hang in there, because despite these babies constantly driving you crazy, despite them testing your patience daily and despite them treating you like shit at times it will be worth it in the end.
They grow so quickly and with that they see things for how they were, maybe not straight away, and maybe they will struggle to admit it but they will see it.

They know who was there for them and who wasn't. If they have a biological parent telling them untruths about you that they believed as a child they will grow to see this. They remember who spoke badly of others in front of them & who didn't & they remember who loved them at the times when they were difficult to love. They will remember who treated them fairly with the right kind of discipline and who didn't.

So although I may make it look easy, I understand its not.
I get that my approach isn't for everyone, its based on my childhood and the things I've seen & heard and the way I have felt.
There is no step or halves in our household, the five babies who reside with me right now are loved equally whether they came from my womb or not...Betsy & Tallulah have three older sisters who I helped raise alongside them for 10 years and they will always be their sisters...not 'step, not 'half'....just sisters.

...and ultimately they are children.
Children who were born into this world and didn't ask for the situations they've been dealt with, they didn't ask to gain a step-parent for whatever reason they have and as difficult for us as it is at times, and it is - it's also difficult for them.
All these babies need is a little help, a little hope, a load of love & someone who believes in them, no matter what 💜

Pengggwn · 15/07/2017 09:59

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wellhonestly · 15/07/2017 09:59

OP I just wanted to say I feel for you.

Seeing your DSD EOW means you prob never have time to really build a day-to-day relationship with them - must be a bit like the Queen visiting! I agree w PPs who suggest doing nice things with your DSDs and being generally lovely to them. Caring for kids is so often a very practical thing, and you say they are nice - they are in your life and they deserve to be cared for. I have learned in my life to look for what people do rather than what they say.

The ex-W sounds a bit unhinged to me the way you describe it, but she will have had her reasons and her hurt. In your shoes yes I would resent a DP for putting you through that, but only you can decide if it's a deal-breaker and it sounds like you have both moved on a bit ...

So take some more steps now to build the life you want.

Sugarpiehoneyeye · 15/07/2017 10:00

Hi Treehugs, I'm not going to flame you, but try and consider these points, it may help you.
They are your little daughters big sisters, they love her, and she may need them one day.
If anything, God forbid, happened to theirDM, they would live with you full time.
They are very young, just starting out on their lives, they will be aware of your feelings, it's so sad.
Love them, and they will begin to love you back, you will be much richer for it, Infact, all of you will.
You've been through a very difficult time, but you've been strong enough to get through it. You can do this, you really can.
Finally, not a pleasant thought, but can you imagine someone, not loving your little girl, please keep trying.
You're very brave starting this thread, hopefully it will help other women in your position. 🌺🌺🌺

abilockhart · 15/07/2017 10:01

If you weren't the OW, you got together with your partner when he had three very young children - a 1 year-old, 3 year-old and 4 year-old.

You knew this at the time, I take it?

What else did you expect?

I think you also need to look at your own role in all of this.

EdmundCleverClogs · 15/07/2017 10:03

Now he is a different man

Unless he's had a shit-ton of help himself or is Doctor Who, he's not a 'different man'. That man is still there, and he could reemerge at any time. You know that. This is a man who when you were at your weakest, lowest point, didn't give you a helping hand or the support you needed. Now you speak of your relationship like it's something you're grateful for - sounds to me you've been so worn down that you don't know yourself how to show others love and support without having to put an act on. Perhaps he's not the one who's changed, perhaps you've just mounded your behaviour into his?

PurplePeppers · 15/07/2017 10:06

I think your DP is treating you appallingly. He was then and I wouldn't be surprised if he was going to do that now too, if the ex was starting to be difficult again.

Nowhere in your posts are you talking about how your DP has tried to build bridges. Just that the issues with the ex have stelled down so he is now 'a good partner'.
If he is/was a good partner, he would have taken you into account when taking whatever decision re his dcs and the ex. I'm sure that song whatveer the ex wanted was not the only solution available.

Communication between you is still poor (see the issue with the rape you can't talk to him about)

And Ive also noticed that he is your DP, not your DH but you have a child together. I'm wondering what sort of protection you have if you decide to leave the relationhsip (or the other way around) for example.
It feels like that relationhsip is great because you compare it to what is was (which was crap). But is it really that good?

My advice would be to go and counselling and talk about your relationhsip NOW. Is it really that good? Is it worth fighting for it? What do you need to do to heal the trust he has broken so many times?

NOte: of ten we talk about broken trust when there is an affair and how hard it is to mend that trust. I think trust can be broken in many more ways. It's just as damaging and just as hard to 'get over' iyswim

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