Charlie Gard Case 4

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A new thread to follow on from the others about this case

Human shields, comparisons to Goebbels and Hitler? The army is truly batshit.

MommaGee, they have said he cant cry.

Please keep reporting any threats of violence spotted on the CA UK facebook page.
In your comments mention the Gina Miller court conviction yesterday
And the fact that First Amendment has no legal standing in the UK

If the FB group could be shut down during the hearing tomorrow it would save Connie and Chris a huge amount of the coming backlash.
So they will benefit
As well as GOSH

Who will hopefully be letting Charlie rest properly by the end of the week.

Regarding the CA fb pages, I had hoped that the least worst explanation was that there are a bunch of spiteful trolls on there whipping up a frenzy amongst the well meaning but poorly informed supporters. I can't find any other reasonable explanation for the phenomena, but it's still depressing to think there may be people getting their lolz from such a desperately sad situation.

Hi all. Been lurking on these threads and the Charlie's Army page with mounting horror.

I have reported some comments on the CA page and FB have informed me of the ones they've removed - they are ones that are direct hate speech towards an individual (Gollop is an ugly bitch, etc )

But reports of the group as a whole and slurs against GOSH seem to be ok

Just thought I'd let you all know. Thanks for the discussion on these threads.

The zoe williams article makes a good point but it's written in such flowery over complicated language that most people won't be bothered to read it. And i dont mean to sound judgemental but going by the standard of English on the CA page even if they did stumble across it they wouldn't have much chance of comprehending the point she's trying to make. They get their info from the mirror, the sun and the daily mail which is written in plain and simple English. (Or that's the rags they post links to anyway). Im not poking at anyone's standard of education here but she'd have made her point much better if it was aimed at the people who need to read it, ie CA.

Latest posting on the Barmy:

Gollop, Trollop just saying. Throw her off the case and maybe even a bridge

Unusually for that page, it's a bloke making a comment.

I still say I would happily contribute to a fund to pay for police time to identify every single person who has made any sort of threat towards GOSH or defamed them or anyone involved in the case and say that all NHS treatment is no longer available to them.

Tinhead, I reported a particular "attach GOSH with bazookas!" Comment and have heard nothing from FB!

I'd have thought that was equally threatening as the man currently having the book thrown at him in court for saying Gina Miller should be run over.

I don't get it.

They now want to open a blog so they can publish the real FACTS, unlike the fake facts/lies GOSH have on their FAQ's.

(Face palm)

I really hope all this defamation has come to attention of some of GOSH's legal teams and they're quietly gathering their evidence. I really hope done if these people are hauled up before a court in 6 months time.

I at least hope someone at GOSH is reading it and taking notes!

I would definitely contribute to that Shatners!

Hi, been lurking here for a while and continue to be astounded and terrified at the vitriol aimed at GOSH by CA page. I have been reporting comments furiously... I've had one removed so far so a tiny bit of success... the remainder are still "under review" .

How ridiculous Trampire

A little pot of Rosie
I thought exactly the same.

muckypup73. MommaGee, they have said he cant cry.
There was a CA comment upthread about how if he was in pain he'd cry. It just pressed a button as it broke me seeing my son visibly in pain but unable to cry because of the vent

I also thought the same regarding the Guardian article. It was a bit showboaty.

I know there is court tomorrow but does something have to be submitted today regarding the evidence? Think I read something about this somewhere. The only evidence I've seen is that letter from the scientist which is very distancing. Is there any other 'evidence'?

I've been watching this for a while. My two cents.

I feel so sorry for Charlie, but I also feel sorry for his parents. I think they started something that is now completely out of their control, and in a way holding them hostage. They have no opportunity to accept that Charlie won't get better because according to the narrative of the campaign that would be letting him down, giving up on him, or not valuing his life.

They are being exploited by people who are involved in this case for their own reasons and who don't have Charlie's best interests, or even the parents best interests, at heart. Some of these motivations are obvious (like the American right's healthcare agenda, but the CA also have their own motivations- being part of something, sticking it to authority)

When the inevitable happens, and I think after the decision today it will be very soon that it does happen, the crowds and the 'supporters' will fade away and move on with their lives or move on to other 'causes'.

Chris and Connie will be left angry and bitter, and due to the lack of trust and the animosity that has been whipped up against health professionals who don't tell them what they want to hear, they might be unwilling or feel unable to seek counselling and appropriate support to deal with their extremely difficult loss.

In addition, they will know that there is a 1 in 4 chance that if they have another child it will be the same thing all over again. (Plus, I would imagine that if its a condition that can't be screened for during pregnancy social workers would be keeping a close eye on the family due to the likelihood of non-engagement with health services- something that will be all the more difficult because of the level of professional distrust).

I think the vitriol that has been directed towards GOSH is appalling and that Charlie's parents are not acting in his best interests, but I really do believe that they believe they are, and that what they are doing comes from a place of love. I really hope they will be able to make peace with this eventually, but I fear that they won't.

To be fair to Zoe Williams she is paid to write for The Guardian and its readers aren't looking for tabloid fodder but serious comment and analysis. I thought it was a good piece but I suspect you're right - preaching to the converted.

Brilliant job Tinhead and Snools33. There are plenty of hateful comments still there and I will do some reporting too. I suspect the more reports they get, the more seriously they will consider the whole page.

I think the parents' lawyers have until 2pm today to submit their evidence

The thread is nearly full so will start a new one as going out later and these fill up really fast.

If there actually is any genuine new evidence, I will be astonished. I think there is more chance of me winning the lottery.

New thread here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2977509-Charlie-Gard-Case-5?watched=1

Can anyone explain how on FB you report stuff? Many thanks.

I have tweeted joshua rozenberg and he replied to say he plans to attend court again tomorrow.
So we should get high quality live information again during the hearing.

007? are they kidding how stupid can you get

im also suprised fb havent been removing comments aftr the court haring u cant threaten people

i would say oh its just them getting carried away but laura gard is moderating this so is just a bad as them

LonelyMummyof1 are you also claiming PIP and carer's as you should be eligible, for your daughter. If you need any help just ask, benefits and Work or CAB are good as well.