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The one where Trump just can't stop being Trump

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TheClaws · 01/07/2017 05:34

Time for a new 'un.

Old thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2958743-Its-too-hot-for-high-drama-but-nonetheless-we-persist-Trump-cont

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cozietoesie · 11/07/2017 21:38

2018.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/07/2017 21:38

Adam Goldman @adamgoldmanNYT

Update 2: I am still reporting.

Reza Aslan @rezaaslan

Guys. This ain't over.

No reason why Jr. should be on Hannity tonight blabbing about what is clearly an ongoing investigation unless he knows there's worse to come

If he published his own incriminating emails to get ahead of NYT story what's he trying to get ahead of with this Hannity interview?

lionheart · 11/07/2017 21:41

That BBC commentary is funny:

'Trump Jr originally tweeted out the first three pages, leaving out page four, which has all the juiciest bits. It was like Beethoven's Ninth Symphony without Ode to Joy or the 1812 Overture without the cannons.'

and:

'Setting aside the glaring lack of punctuation...'

www.thedailybeast.com/trump-aides-freaking-out-over-don-jrs-russia-email-the-sum-of-all-fears

saffronwblue · 11/07/2017 21:42

Good god this is quite a story to wake up to!
I think jr is stupid rather than vengeful. On a side note, interesting to see how even super rich connected people send banal emails rearranging meeting times etc. I miss Spicey - would like to see his expression discussing this.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 11/07/2017 21:56

good gracious, I somehow haven't had the news on all day and missed all of this Shock I don't even know where to start catching up.

Main question - why is Trump still president? are the republicans jumping up and down?

lionheart · 11/07/2017 21:58

They are either regrouping or spending some time in quiet contemplation.

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cozietoesie · 11/07/2017 22:13

OhYou

He's not going to resign - I don't think he has it in him. (That's why he's still there.)

orlantina · 11/07/2017 22:40

President Trump‏Verified account @POTUS 3m3 minutes ago
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#ICYMI yesterday I announced key additions to my administration:

More lawyers?

orlantina · 11/07/2017 22:41

Dan Rather‏Verified account @DanRather 4m4 minutes ago
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We the American people deserve to know what in God's name is happening. www.facebook.com/theDanRather/posts/10158990651930716

AcrossthePond55 · 11/07/2017 23:40

Oooooh, can't wait to see Rachel Maddow tonight!!!!!

Apologies if someone has provided, but is there a link to the actual email(s) he released? I've seen articles, but not the actual language of the email(s).

TheClaws · 11/07/2017 23:54

Fox News‏Verified account @FoxNews 1h1 hour ago
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Trump Jr. emails: White House dismisses 'ridiculous' Dem rhetoric after 'treason' talk

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TheClaws · 12/07/2017 01:47

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 16m16 minutes ago
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My son, Donald, will be interviewed by @seanhannity tonight at 10:00 P.M. He is a great person who loves our country!

I'm sure Hannity will be asking all the tough questions!

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/07/2017 04:15

Shree ✊🏾❤️🇺🇸 @shreec

Don Jr. giving all the tea even when given softball questions by Hannity.

He said he pressed multiple times for the Hillary info.

He said "It was a waste of time." And that they didn't get what they came here for...

Um. Bruh.

NOT EVEN DENYING THIS MEETING.

@DonaldJTrumpJr : NOT EVEN DENYING THAT HE WAS THERE TO COLLUDE WITH AN AGENT OF THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT TO INFLUENCE OUR ELECTIONS!

Is this what white male privilege is? Absolutely no fear ever?

Belief that you are above the law at all times?

I am stunned.

He keeps admitting that he was there to get information from a foreign government. Like. I'm just.

🙃🙃🙃

What's amazing is that Hannity keeps showing LONG clips from actual journalists and scholars who say COLLUSION!

Folks looking ASHEN.

In every clip folks look DEEPLY concerned. Y'all, maybe if @FoxNews is on mute our #MAGA stans might realize this shit is for real.

What I am trying to figure out is if Don Jr. has decided to throw Dad under the bus.

Is this real life?!

In retrospect Don Jr. says because of all "Russia stuff"
might not have taken the meeting...

Um. Admitting guilt?!

I am deeply disturbed at what I just watched.

But I am hopeful that even a handful of regular Fox News viewers' Spidey senses went 🤔

Cause this shit is ABSURD.

If you're a human with even a modicum of critical thinking skills you can't think everything is kosher.

southpaw @nycsouthpaw
lol, after the interview with Donald Trump's son, Hannity brings on Donald Trump's lawyer for objective analysis.

Yashar Ali @yashar
Jay Sekulow on Hannity: "The media is going after Don Jr for releasing the full email chain while Hillary Clinton deleted her emails."

Roussette · 12/07/2017 07:10

Just watched a clip of the Hannity/Jr interview.

Firstly... god, does he have his Dad's facial mannerisms, made me feel a tad bilious actually.

Secondly... does he not get it? He keeps banging on about 'it was nothing, waste of 20 minutes, nothing came out of it blah blah' Does he not get that it is the intention that matters? It's what he wanted to do that matters, not what actually transpired from the meeting which might have been nothing. He's as guilty as hell and just sits there like an ignorant wazzock saying it was nothing

He does come across as totally stupid.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/07/2017 07:27

I think they're going for "what high japes did the little scamp get up to now?" Lots of the conservative media are calling him idiotic and stupid but I think that's actually their way of defending him; he's too naive to realise the implications of what he's doing.

Drew Harwell @drewharwell

White House official on president's son, age 39: "An honest kid" who "just wants to hunt, fish & run the family biz"

t.co/nyRhmaDuh5?amp=1

The one where Trump just can't stop being Trump
Gumpendorf · 12/07/2017 07:31

Meanwhile, Rachel Maddow says watch for the counter narrative. Yes, it's all the fault of Hillary, the DNC and the Obama Administration...
www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

Roussette · 12/07/2017 07:33

Yes absolutely Pain they are making it out to be so harmless and he's just a silly boy.

Just watched a Fox clip where all this was challenged. The presenter was in pain listening. The interviewee said... "it's like meeting in the middle of the night to receive stolen goods and the Police turn up but you haven't actually put the stuff in your boot"

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/07/2017 07:51

Dana Houle @DanaHoule

Wait, hold on here: if Trump knows nothing about the meeting, why is he personally approving statements about what was discussed in the mtg?

The one where Trump just can't stop being Trump
Roussette · 12/07/2017 08:50

Oooops thanks Perking!

OhYouBadBadKitten · 12/07/2017 08:55

Are people (not you guys of course) accepting that nothing really did come out of this meeting Trump Jr had? Is there any evidence for that?

PerkingFaintly · 12/07/2017 08:56

I'm reading as many of these links as I can. But my jaw is hanging too slackly to say much!

Roussette · 12/07/2017 09:07

Trouble is Kitten no one knows do they? The fact that 30 mins after the meeting ended had Trump tweeting about the 33,000 emails of HRC seems a remarkable coincidence doesn't it...

orlantina · 12/07/2017 09:22

So Trump Jr didn't tell Dad?

But he told other people.
Did they tell Dad?

There's a thread on cognitive dissonance. Russia has always been the enemy. A threat. Trump Jr is told that there's info from a Russian lawyer and the Russian Govt wants to help Trump get elected and he's ok about colluding with a country seen as America's enemy so he can get elected.

And Trump supporters are ok with that?

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