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The one where Trump just can't stop being Trump

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TheClaws · 01/07/2017 05:34

Time for a new 'un.

Old thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2958743-Its-too-hot-for-high-drama-but-nonetheless-we-persist-Trump-cont

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Roussette · 11/07/2017 18:29

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Junior gives timeline:

4-420 or 430: he meets to get Russian dirt.
440: Trump sends 1st tweet with "33,000 emails"

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 11/07/2017 18:33

The Brylcreem Kid has just released emails detailing the Russian correspondence on the offer, apparently. You have to wonder whether anyone could be as daft as he seems to be.

Based on that college story upthread and the 4 year old "loser" story, you could argue that revenge is a dish best served cold - and what a public, humiliating take-down!

Roussette · 11/07/2017 18:35

I should feel sorry for Jr. given what his father is like, but I can't, because he's as abhorrent as his father

ElenaGreco123 · 11/07/2017 18:42

and what a public, humiliating take-down!

But who is taking whom down?

BiglyBadgers · 11/07/2017 18:55

Wow! Those emails are something else. Why on earth would be put them out...? My possibilities are:

  1. he genuinely believes there is nothing of issue to be seen (I know this sounds crazy, but considering the recent past I don't think this can be discounted)
  2. he is chucking them out in an attempt to cover something much worse. Hide a big treason with a littler one.
  3. he just really, really hates his father.

One of the things that struck me from the emails was the familiarity. They came across as conversations between people who already have a relationship and that this offer of information was not an unexpected or strange be thing. I have no doubt there is more out there.

hackmum · 11/07/2017 19:00

What do we conclude from all this? That Junior is even thicker than his father?

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 11/07/2017 19:05

But who is taking whom down?

I get the feeling Donald Jr knows his goose is cooked, so he's throwing punches (metaphor salad, I know) to take out as many if the crew as possible. Taking down Kushner would be one in the eye for pop's fave, golden child Ivanka.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/07/2017 19:06

Seung Min Kim @seungminkim

BREAKING -- McConnell will keep Senate in session the first two weeks of August

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/07/2017 19:06

Christopher Hayes @chrislhayes
McConnell is going to attempt to leverage smoking gun evidence of a conspiracy with a foreign adversary to advance his party's agenda.

Fiderer · 11/07/2017 19:07

The first mail from Goldstone starts:

Let me know when you are free to talk with Emin by phone about this Hillary info - you had mentioned early this week

So there will be at least another chain prior to this. And who knows how many after.

Roussette · 11/07/2017 19:10

illegitimate it's like watching a boxset, it really is.

I don't think Jr. is doing this because he hates his Father because alienating him will cut off $$$ surely. I think he's just plain stoopid.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/07/2017 19:18

Jane Chong @chongathon

Further strange revelations now inevitable. Everyone's lawyer is ethically bound to protect his/her client first—not @POTUS or anyone else.

Eric Garland @ericgarland
Makes sense. Once you lawyer up, he/she is duty bound to save YOUR ass no matter what. That's when the flippin' and dealin' gets FUN!!!

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 11/07/2017 19:29

Poor DH is on a train home after a big meeting elsewhere & his phone is dying. He is gutted because today's Trump drama is deeply entertaining (except for the bit of it which is about screwing over democracy, obvs).

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/07/2017 19:31

I stand corrected: huckabee sanders is conducting a briefing but it's off camera

orlantina · 11/07/2017 19:34

I stand corrected: huckabee sanders is conducting a briefing but it's off camera

Another off camera briefing....

lionheart · 11/07/2017 19:43

'To put this in context, this occurred before the current Russian fever was in vogue.' Hmm

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/07/2017 19:47

Peter Alexander @PeterAlexander
NEW: Pres Trump, via Sarah Huckabee Sanders, on Donald Trump, Jr.: "My son is a high quality person and I applaud his transparency."

orlantina · 11/07/2017 19:52

She's talking about the Democrats. She sounds tired.

orlantina · 11/07/2017 19:53

Everything being referred to Counsel........

orlantina · 11/07/2017 19:54

She's not going to talk about it.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/07/2017 19:54
Hmm
The one where Trump just can't stop being Trump
orlantina · 11/07/2017 19:55

This should really be on camera.

orlantina · 11/07/2017 19:56

What's your definition of collusion?

No comment

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/07/2017 19:56

Where are you listening to it orlantina?

lionheart · 11/07/2017 19:57

Oh dear.

Here is a useful timeline:

talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/look-at-the-timeline