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To think Angels might be real

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Turquoiserosepeony · 29/06/2017 21:45

I let ll month old DD play with my phone briefly today so that I could drink my coffee and she somehow managed to google 'archangels' which got me thinking - I've unexpectedly found white feathers indoors and seen pretty blue lights in my room at night (not from passing emergency vehicles!) but nothing more convincing than that.

Ex DP's DM however swore blind that soon after her own DM died she saw something in her living room that she can only describe as an angel. She was convinced.

Anyone else had more impressive experiences than mine? I'd love to think they're real.

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FidgetSpinner · 29/06/2017 22:35

My ma believes in them. I'm not convinced.

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/06/2017 22:35

I know it seems that way @Turquoiserosepeony but there is actually a problem with it. Of course it's nice to believe in unicorns and fairies and angels but they aren't real. And that's important. Because science is. You only have to look at the States to see what happens when belief is on a par with fact.

And the UK government is currently being propped up by creationist, climate change denying religious nut cases. They are influencing policy!

PlayingSardines · 29/06/2017 22:36

Someone should do some research into whatever drugs they give after a triple bypass that cause patients to hallucinate identical angels, and publish it in The Lancet.

PlayingSardines · 29/06/2017 22:38

Why don't they look after everyone, similarly, tickety? Were the Grenfell Tower's inhabitants' angels on a tea-break? Hmm

CurlyhairedAssassin · 29/06/2017 22:40

I half believe in guardian spirits looking out for you. I would never tell anyone why I think this; well, maybe on my death bed! It's far too embarrassing and also I don't want people think I'm a bit soft and feeling sorry for my apparent lack of intelligence.

But I am more open-minded than I was.

I just don't believe in feathery winged beings. When we moved into this house I went out the room and found a medium-sized white feather in the middle of the living floor. It hadn't been there before and I hadn't been plumping cushions or taken off a down coat. An excitable person would have assumed it was a message from someone to say this would be a happy home or something. But the patio door as open ever so slightly to let fresh air in. It was a tiny gap and would have been very difficult for the feather to just float through it. But it wouldn't have been impossible. So you have to dismiss the idea that a winged being put it there, however nice the idea is that one did.

AndTakeYourHorseWithYou · 29/06/2017 22:41

This will sound crazy but the amount of times me / dh / dc's have narrowly missed something really bad, or something we wouldn't be able to deal with is too much of a coincidence. I thank my angels every day for looking after us

Oh dear oh dear.

Embekkisson1 · 29/06/2017 22:42

I like the idea of white feathers being left as a reminder that an angel has visited .sometimes I see or pick up a white feather and it does make me remember someone very close who has died . I don't necessarily think it's an angels feather but whether it's a pigeons or An angel it's a good reminder to take time and wonder .

Turquoiserosepeony · 29/06/2017 22:43

"Oh dear oh dear" - AndTakeYourHorse are you ok?

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KeepServingTheDrinks · 29/06/2017 22:46

perhaps an 11 month old child shouldn't be using a device unsupervised?

Be very grateful your 'angle' didn't take your child elsewhere on the internet.

AngelaTwerkel · 29/06/2017 22:46

Why would ant adult see a feather and instead of thinking it's from a bird, immediately leap to its from an angel?

Sorry but I'm with iwasjustabout.

FidgetSpinner · 29/06/2017 22:46

Where are they for all those poor people getting bombed in Syria?

LaurieFairyCake · 29/06/2017 22:46

Oh yeah.

To think Angels might be real
CurlyhairedAssassin · 29/06/2017 22:46

Sardines: I'm sure hallucinating the same thing as someone else who has had the same drugs is perfectly possible. All you'd need is for for both patients in their woozy state to hear one nurse say to the other "ooh thanks for getting that for me, you're an angel."

The next thing is, their mind has conjured up an image of an actual angel.

I'm sure it's possible, that. or even just a coincidence. These types of possibilities, however unlikely, make it impossible to argue the presence of angels/guardians in ill people. Gorgeous idea, though, and quite comforting, I'm sure.

usernameinfinito · 29/06/2017 22:46

Why do they have to be white feathers? Can't angels be black, brown, teal, etc? If I find a feather I take it as a sign that a bird has been there.

user1495484765 · 29/06/2017 22:48

Worse things to believe in than angels. I have recently started asking angels for help. I am a cynical old bag but I think there is something comforting about it.

Turquoiserosepeony · 29/06/2017 22:50

I knew someone would be along at some point to tell me off for letting DD play with my phone!

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CurlyhairedAssassin · 29/06/2017 22:54

The thought of angels is much more comforting than the thought of an all-powerful religious God with all the fire and brimstone shite that comes with that if you put a foot out of line.

You don't hear of angels who punish people!

Of COURSE people like to believe in the potential for protective kindly spirit guardians. there's no angel church and confessional box needed to believe in them.

RiverTam · 29/06/2017 22:55

It's a lovely idea but I don't suppose it's true. Plus, I don't think that angels are necessarily these benign and beautiful creatures, I get the feeling they're pretty hardcore and vengeful. If they exist. Which I don't know if they do. Oh, I don't know! The exist in Constantine!

KeepServingTheDrinks · 29/06/2017 22:55

That was me Grin

I think it's a safeguarding issue for an 11 month old to be using a device unsupervised.

Turquoiserosepeony · 29/06/2017 22:57

KeepServingTheDrinks I was supervising her. I'm perfectly capable of drinking a coffee and watching what my child's doing with a phone at the same time but thanks for your concern.

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TequilaSunshine · 29/06/2017 22:58

Who knows? I like to think they are. We don't know everything and there's still a lot to find out about stuff we haven't discovere yet or have knowledge on.
Not so sure about the feather analogy though. That could just mean.... feathers. Smile

Helendee · 29/06/2017 22:58

My friend's mum had a very difficult delivery with her and almost died giving birth. This was back in the 1960s and she had no pain relief and was giving birth at home. She said at one point she resigned herself that she might die and felt a huge sense of peace in the room, when she opened her eyes she swears she saw four angels over her bed and seconds later my friend was born and all was well.

To this day she maintains that this is what happened. Who knows!

RelentlesslyPositive · 29/06/2017 23:02

I believe in angels, but I can't see why they would drop feathers.

SaltySalt · 29/06/2017 23:02

I think it's a safeguarding issue for an 11 month old to be using a device unsupervised

Seriously?

Rescuepuppydaft2 · 29/06/2017 23:06

I want to know what the drugs were too! Given that my Dad never told the other man where in the room, how tall it was, what colour hair it had and that the wings were spread. There were no nurses on the ward when it happened. For my Dad to be freaked out there was more to it than the power of suggestion! It wasn't a nurse either, not that high up!

Although he has decided himself that it must have been the drugs!