Or is toast with honey a perfectly acceptable breakfast for a 4yo?

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Just that, really. DD(4) is asking for toast with honey for breakfast. DH is telling her she can't have it. I ask why, he says it's just pure sugar and looks at me like I've got two heads. Surely toast with honey is a perfectly normal breakfast option? It's not like she eats it every day (or in fact ever before).

DH is foreign, if that makes a difference. He has some really weird (to me) ideas about what is and isn't an acceptable meal

Fine for a treat, but not great on a regular basis. I'd prefer more slow release energy and/or protein at breakfast.

That's not to say I'm outlawing sweet things. DS doesn't miss out, trust me. But I'm not wild about sugar/simple carbs only for breakfast on a regular basis.

And I don't think there's anything fanatical about that, whatever MN would have you believe.

From the parliamentary report linked to

Children living in deprived areas are substantially more likely to be obese. Among reception (age 4-5) children, 5.5% of those in the least deprived areas are obese compared with 12.5% of those in the most deprived areas. In Year 6 (age 10-11), 11.7% of children in the least deprived areas are obese, compared with 26.0% in the most deprived areas. So in both age groups, children in the most deprived areas are more than twice as likely to be obese.

Do we think that this is because of some locally sourced honey on whole meal toast?

Nope, but given about 70% of those over 35 are overweight or obese far more of us are getting our diet wrong than getting it right.

Hobbit Food is for enjoyment? Are you mad?!! The function of food is to drive people mad by obsessively ruminating about the protein/carbs/sugar/fat/salt content of absolutely everything they and their children eat.
No reprieve for birthdays or Christmas.

Christ on a bike. The whole world has gone mad.

Tomorrow, in honour of this thread, I am going to give my kids spam fritters, space dust and Angel Delight (butterscotch flavour) for breakfast washed down with Sunny Delight.

And seriously, when did "local honey" become a thing?

^AlexKate I'm sure she'll be fine.

DS has had a horrid sire throat and bad cough last couple of weeks, one day last week in the heatwave, it was that hot and he wouldn't even eat Weetabix for breakfast. I let him have a yoghurt and an icelolly. Figured something was better than nothing and it's not like he has it everyday. I even had the balls to tell the teachers what I had done.
I'm still waiting for my public flogging. they didn't seem too fussed either.

It's fine. Good quality bread (wholemeal/granary), some butter and a small amount of honey and you could do a lot worse. I'd give her a glass of milk and a piece of fresh fruit as well, to balance the meal out a bit.

Im letting the thread down. My honey is Asda Smartprice.

You don't need to "balance" every single meal for the love of Winnie.

To the people screaming "IT'S EMPTY CARBS AND SUGAR".....she's a 4y/o girl who needs energy, not a far middle-aged woman on a diet!

I am so cross by this thread I am taking my DD for churros and chocolate for her breakfast tomorrow

Live in Spain, it's normal, that or white baguette toasted with olive oil and salt and a glass of

She is as skinny as a reed btw.

You don't need to "balance" every single meal for the love of Winnie.

You don't 'have' to but it's a good idea if you're aiming for a balanced diet overall.

What I find strange is this notion that if you don't eat protein heavy meals you'll be starving a few hours later.

I would suggest there is something wrong with you if you are staving 2 hours after honey on toast but perfectly content 2 hours after a pot of Greek yogurt.

It's no different to putting sugar on cereal or having sweetened cereal.

holly great minds!!

I read an article recently about 'clean eating' that linked extreme examples to anorexia. Unfortunately I havent been able to find it again.
Restricted adult diets are not healthy for children, and can encourage eating disorders including binge eating. Honey on toast is no different from any other childrens cereal or porridge with brown sugar.

I'd be more worried about an adult that is so concerned about the 'purity' of food and ignored healthy portion control.

This is also a bit of a time rich discussion - those of us whose children eat at nursery/ breakfast club because we are at work don't get time to hand wring over making a fresh omelette everyday and accept that school will serve up cold cereal. Such is life

I read an article recently about 'clean eating' that linked extreme examples to anorexia.

Extreme and obsessive clean eating is an eating disorder (orthorexia)

If not on decent bread it will kick start a blood sugar high/low pattern which isn't great, but every now and then is fine. Maybe give something else as well.

Jessicake Like Italians, we often have cake for breakfast. And lots of lovely, fresh foods all day long.

I like Michael Pollen's mantra: Eat food, not too much, mostly plants.

And in homage to this thread (and the eight surplus apples in my fruit bowl), I am now heating the oven for a honey and apple cake. The honey is from a hive belonging to a bloke called Keith, who lives three doors down. And the cake I remember my Bubbeh (granny) making on high days and holidays, so we still make it each Jewish New Year.

And that's the thing about food. It's not about glycemic indices, empty carbs and metabolism. It's about what comes from around the corner and links you to your land, and what comes from the past and links you to your culture. It's about treating that food with respect and using that food to show that you respect those you love.

In short, while some foods might add to the heft of the arse (shock! horror!) they also add to the heft of the soul.

Autofillcontact to me the ideal breakfast is toast honey AND yogurt Why are you forcing us to choose

Absolutely fine and normal as far as I'm concerned. Toast ( whole meal) and honey and porridge with jam are regular breakfasts in this house. Yes jam and honey are pure sugar, but the amount you put on toast is pretty small!

I don't get this logic...

Honey on toast?

Pure sugar! That way obesity lies.

Add banana/protein, that'll fix it!

So how does adding MORE food and calories reduce the obesity risk?