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to ask the MN Tory voters, what do you think of the DUP?

146 replies

ssd · 26/06/2017 21:53

and how much do you know about them?

do you know about the cash for ash scandal?

do you think the GFA will be affected?

am curious to know what Tory voters think of this, am wondering how happy they are about this deal that's been done today.

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AndTakeYourHorseWithYou · 26/06/2017 23:24

Would you prefer Jeremy Corbyn as PM in a deal with the DUP or another general election?

I would prefer anything other than handing even an ounce more power to the DUP than they already have, which is far far too much already. I'd rather have a plant pot as PM, or ten more general elections.

YoureNotASausage · 26/06/2017 23:27

Rhayader, I'm sure the DUP will interpret those categories in whatever way suits them best. They're pretty broad when you are dealing with two opposing communities with their own projects and interests on each side.

YoureNotASausage · 26/06/2017 23:31

DUP is pretty notorious for lining their own and their voters pockets.

kirinm · 26/06/2017 23:37

Tory voters should have known this was a possibility as it was very much on the cards in 2015.

walkingtheplank · 26/06/2017 23:48

Perhaps Tory voters thought this would be better than Corbyn and his money tree.

kirinm · 27/06/2017 00:02

What, Theresa and her money tree? At least labour wanted to spent money on things that mattered. Tories have spent money on a homophobic facist party to maintain power and nothing else.

Rhayader · 27/06/2017 00:04

kirinm

Quite a big difference between 1BN and 48BN.

bertiesgal · 27/06/2017 00:14

Didn't vote Tory.

Really gutted that even now people are trotting out tired lines about JC. He's not PM, TM is.

Could you focus on her faults please? Instead folk are focusing on the daily mail/express fuelled "disaster" that JC might be?

We're an international laughing stock with a lame duck PM who couldn't negotiate her way out of a bathroom. The GFA is at stake. The economy is not doing well and we're spending more money propping up a crappy minority government than we are propping up our NHS. The NHS was at an all time high in satisfaction ratings prior to Labour leaving office (now it's at its lowest)!

We are having the piss taken out of us and if I hear one more person say "thank goodness we don't have JC as he'd be a disaster". Can't you see? This is a bloody disaster and it's just getting worse.

The Tories: party before country every bloody time but it's us who pay the price!

I'm so cross about it all Sad. I don't have the answer but as things go from bad to worse, focusing on the mythical disaster that the media believe Corbyn would be is merely distracting us from the real disaster that is in front of us!!!!

bertiesgal · 27/06/2017 00:18

Also, a PM who can say to a hard working nurse that "there is no magic money tree" as if the living breathing adult in front of her is just a silly child asking for a curly wurly is not fit to be in office.

There, I said it 😡, wanders off to bed in a confused rage....

ExplodedCloud · 27/06/2017 00:21

bertiesgal yy it's the equivalent of bring on the Titanic and saying at least we aren't in that lifeboat.
In 2 years of sole government the Conservatives have taken the country and repeatedly crashed it into whatever ditch they could find whilst telling their passengers that the seatbelts don't work. Except for Arlene. She got a soft cushiony airbag.

user1498240695 · 27/06/2017 00:39

Just to add that it really pisses me off when Tory voters bang on that JC will make a mess of EU negotiations when Labours' key negotiator is Sir Kier Starmer, one of the countries most respected and capable lawyers. 😠

LellyMcKelly · 27/06/2017 01:04

Not a Tory, not a Corbyn fan either, but I am from NI. I'm worried about the Good Friday Agreement and the perceived impartiality of central government. This means very little to the rest of the UK, but it brought a peace of sorts to the province. This, coupled with the uncertainty around how the north/south border will operate post Brexit, has the very real potential to disrupt a fragile peace. NI had a healthy majority in favour of Remain, it has had no parliament since March, and now finds itself in a very complex and unwelcome position - none of which was its own making.

LellyMcKelly · 27/06/2017 01:05

Should say 'lack of perceived impartiality'.

makeourfuture · 27/06/2017 07:12

The Magic Money Tree does indeed exist.

For bankers and the DUP.

JustArandomUser · 27/06/2017 07:33

Here's a question, the DUP are the largest party in NI and are not very well thought of on here.

Sinn Fein are the 2nd largest party, what does everyone think of them?

walkingtheplank · 27/06/2017 07:39

I expect it would be absolutely fine for JC to do a deal with SF if it got Labour across the line. None of the criticisms of the DUP and funding for NI and endangering the GFA would apply at all if Jeremy was PM.

Chrisinthemorning · 27/06/2017 07:41

Not particularly pleased. I thought they were all a bit rubbish and the Conservatives were the best of a bad bunch. I actually like Lib Dem best but they don't get anywhere in my constituency. I'm glad Corbyn isn't in, that's about as far as it goes.

kirinm · 27/06/2017 07:41

Rhaydar - where is May getting her money from to keep the triple lock, social care and other policies of hers she's just dropped? The Tories refused to explain how they intended on funding anything at all during the campaign but now suddenly they've found enough not to have to pass the cost of social care onto the elderly?

walkingtheplank · 27/06/2017 07:45

My husband just read this thread. He asked why someone would start this thread before they received an answer criticised them. He didn't understand why so quickly the thread was taken over by Labour supporters when the question was aimed at Conservatives. Bless him, he doesn't realise that all threads asking Conservatives what they think must almost immediately become a home for Labour supporters slagging off Conservatives, lest any Conservatives come on to give an opinion.

JustArandomUser · 27/06/2017 07:47

Labour supporters might be a firm majority on MN, but they're a long way second in real life...

Frankiestein401 · 27/06/2017 07:48

@rhayader - they can't spend it on what they like but they can go into the next election claiming 'we got an extra billion for NI' don't you think that might just get them more votes? How is that fair?

Andrewofgg · 27/06/2017 07:53

I don't like their social policies but the NI electorate do and I don't think they are going to try to abolish SSM in GB.

The pork is politics. If JC did a deal with the SNP the same thing would happen there.

I am a Unionist - no change in the status of NI without the consent of the majority there - so any deal which respects that suits me.

And the party with the most votes remains in office which is better than the party with two million fewer votes taking over.

walkingtheplank · 27/06/2017 07:55

Particularly amused by Bertiesgirl response. It starts off saying she's not a Conservative voter - so not the target audience for the question. She goes on that 'people are trotting out tired lines about JC... could you focus on her (TM's) faults?

You can't look at these things in isolation. Its a choice between Conservatives + DUP, including £1Bn to be spent on specific projects in Northern Ireland or 'JC' in a minority government - because he can't get over the line (he did lose remember), spending an extra £48Bn.

sysysysref · 27/06/2017 07:58

My thoughts are, at least we kept JC and John McDonnell out. Anything is better than the destruction they would cause

TheNaze73 · 27/06/2017 08:04

Compared to the £5B that Gordon Brown pissed up the wall with out gold reserves, £1.5B seems like a small price to pay.

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