to ask the MN Tory voters, what do you think of the DUP?

[ssd]

and how much do you know about them?

do you know about the cash for ash scandal?

do you think the GFA will be affected?

am curious to know what Tory voters think of this, am wondering how happy they are about this deal that's been done today.

There's an inference with your subsequent posts that we were wrong to vote as we did, and it's not an unreasonable inference to make

For Balance you should also ask all the Labour voters how they feel about the Lib Dems, SNP, and all the flotsam and jetsam of MP's they would need to get on board to form an effective government

Since Labour haven't promised 1.5 billion pounds to any of those people in a massive bribe to vile extremists, I don't see how that would be balance of any kind.

Corbyn didn't win the election. - the tories did and based on their manifesto. Constantly saying it's better than the alternative isn't a complete answer. Tory voters were misled and lied to. How do you feel about that? Or is that all completely fine with you so long as Corbyn isn't PM?

I didn't vote labour btw

how did you work that out thisiswhatyou?

where did i say you were wrong?

AndTakeYourHorseWithYou - did you see my post on the previous page, Labour have tried to form a coalition with the DUP for the last two elections. Presumably offering similar amounts of money.

This is just how politics works in a hung parliament. The DUP are the largest party in NI. It's like doing a deal with the SNP etc. Whats the point of these parties existing if they dont get to make deals like this - lots of people voted for them.

Mother, I think once a referendum has taken place, to ignore the results of that referendum is unwise in the extreme.

To rewind things, Brexit won, Trump was voted in, Le Pen gained an enormous amount of support in France.

To ignore what we are being told is never good. It's smug and arrogant for Farron (and on a personal level I like him ) to effectively say 'well, we know better so we will do this anyway.'

Ssd, there is an inference in your posts that those who voted conservative are indirectly responsible for the current state of affairs. Given that Tory voters are generally seen as the devils sisters on here, it is not an unreasonable inference

Ssd, there is an inference in your posts that those who voted conservative are indirectly responsible for the current state of affairs. Given that Tory voters are generally seen as the devils sisters on here, it is not an unreasonable inference

rubbish

and a wee smiley face at the end doesnt make it any less rubbish

I'm a Tory voter. Yes I know about the DUP. I am familiar with what they stand for. I'm also aware that a large proportion of the NI electorate voted for them - their choice in a democracy. As a liberal conservative I'm not happy that NI has different abortion provision etc. I am aware of the RHI scandal.

I am sure that Labour would have done a similar deal if it had taken them over the line. If the alternative to this deal is a Corbyn money-tree government, a mere £1Billion is a bargain.

I am concerned about peace in NI and how this deal will affect the process.

ExplodedCloud did you not read any of the threads in the run up to either of the previous two elections? My comment was based on the fact that in these, being a Tory voter was equivalent to coming out as a satanist .

Clearly not as many people voted Tory this time as last. Thank god. Some of them saw sense.

Better a straightforward buyout than a capitulation on abortion and gay rights.

The DUP are the largest party in NI. It's like doing a deal with the SNP etc

The DUP are nothing at all like the SNP, or anyone else. They are facist extremists that have no place in a 21st century government.

This is a disaster for all concerned.

Well - clearly you know why you posted, ssd.

I'm not sure I do, though. I mean, yes, you lose a question but the answer is so obvious and therefore I assumed an inference.

Unless you really thought we were thrilled £1.5 billion has been spent on a party we didn't vote for?

a mere £1Billion is a bargain

Lets not forget that Labours own costings put the cost of their manifesto at £48BN (although others said it was closer to 60...).

It's not £1BN for their pockets, its money for mental health, infrastructure projects, NHS, ultra fast broadband to boost the economy. Northern Ireland is often neglected and their economy has not recovered as well from the recession as Great Britain's has.

AndTakeYourHorseWithYou

Yet Labour would do a deal with them..... And they are the largest party in Northern Ireland. You either agree with democracy or your don't, I assume you don't.

NoBetterName Read them? I was in there! But in all seriousness this time seemed drastically more right wing. In 2010 & 2015 I was falsely buoyed up by left wing MN. This time I was gutted that people seemed so 'pro TM'.

NI neglected? It's an endless money pit, it's far from neglected.

And back we go to comparing with Corbyn. The money to NI is largely irrelevant. TM has abandoned policies she said only a few weeks ago were vital simply to hold on to power. How can she claim credible (and we will steer well clear of strong and stable here for obvious reasons) leadership in those circumstances? Surely she is irretrievably compromised. How can anyone trust her word?

You either agree with democracy or your don't

Nope. There is a lot between those two ends...you can believe in democracy but not think just anyone should be allowed to be voted in. Would you be happy with the goverment doing a deal with the BNP if some people had voted for them?

My mum is a staunch Tory, she admitted to me the other day she can not support them now and regrets her vote.
I was

I'm sure they'll get a new leader and all those staunch, wavering Conservatives will get over it.

AndTakeYourHorseWithYou

Would you prefer Jeremy Corbyn as PM in a deal with the DUP or another general election?

BNP is a moot point because as far as I can remember they've never even had 1 MP, let alone enough to form a coalition or a supply and confidence deal.

Hmmm, it's quite interesting and worrying. I simply can't believe TM has put herself in this position, or even that the public got to vote on something as complex as Brexit so really we should all still be plodding along with DC in charge.

I'm glad that DUP have negotiated more support for NI. But horrified at the power this group of scum now have to hold their disgusting position on human rights issues. I hope to God they use this money well and wisely as it is an unexpected gift for the NI economy. And there are so many parts of this great little country that could benefit greatly from support.

But the DUP are scum, no other way to say it.

To be honest I think David Cameron is to blame for all of this. I always imagine him off sipping pina coladas in Bermuda shorts on a boat in the Maldives laughing and how he managed to hand off a sinking ship so quickly and efficiently.

Sausage

They can't spend it on whatever they want...

£400 million for infrastructure projects (£200 million per year for two years)
£200 million for improvement of health service (£100 million per year for two years)
£150 million for ultra-fast broadband (£75 million per year for two years)
£100 million for tackling deprivation (£20 million per year for five years)
£100 million to address immediate pressures in health and education (£50 million per year for two years)
£50 million for mental health services (£10 million per year for five years)