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To ask - Jeremy Corbyn - PM

613 replies

MommaGee · 26/06/2017 11:04

There's stuff about how he thinks he'll be PM in 6 months. How the GLASTO coverage is a BBC plot to "see a MARXIST in power" etc etc but how?
TM is hardly going to call another election and Labor are likely to keep her long enough to get through the crap that is Brexit.

Apologies for all those thinking in thick but I don't see how JC has any even inkling of getting it, let alone a discussion on how much swing he'd need

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53rdWay · 26/06/2017 11:12

Minority Westminster governments aren't very stable, historically. TM wouldn't need to call an election - just to lose a confidence vote in the Commons.

Oliversmumsarmy · 26/06/2017 11:18

And a million more people would actually have to vote for him.

YesMadamDeputySpeaker · 26/06/2017 11:19

I don't think there's much likelihood of TM calling another election at all, as if she did it would be very much her digging her own grave.

A vote of no confidence seems ever more likely. However, I don't necessarily think she'd lose one if it were to be called.

Dawndonnaagain · 26/06/2017 11:19

It's fairly likely that there will be an election this year.

1ndigo · 26/06/2017 11:21

The man seems to think he's some kind of rick star icon for disenfranchised youth. Its an utter joke.

WHY didn't he galvanise the youth during the Brexit vote and get them to turn out to vote Remain? Maybe then we wouldn't be in this mess. Where was he then? Shuffling about and refusing to make his position clear (because he's a Brexiter but no guts to admit it).

He is a protest politician - no more. He would be like a rabbit in the headlights as PM as he'd actually have to put some money where his mouth is.

He is as cynical and media-savvy as the rest of them - make no mistake.

Though I'm far from delighted with the current set-up, a Corbyn administration would be an total shambles.

Nikephorus · 26/06/2017 11:21

He's just enjoying the publicity, safe in the knowledge that he's not going to have to do any hard work. All mouth and no substance, like his manifesto. I doubt he'd actually want to DO the job; it's more fun for him taking the salary and just slagging the Tories off while being hailed as wonderful.
(Like Boris Johnson - I doubt he'd want to be PM, certainly not in the current climate. But he can enjoy the hype and speculation because, like JC, he feeds on the ego boost)

VladmirsPoutine · 26/06/2017 11:23

TM won't call another election. I've read this morning that a DUP deal is imminent so she's going to get by until say March 2019 by the skin of her teeth.

Whomever thinks the GLASTO coverage is a BBC plot to "see a MARXIST in power"

needs to put down the reefer.

MommaGee · 26/06/2017 11:24

Thanks 53rd

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christinarossetti · 26/06/2017 11:25

Whatever else you can accuse JC of, 'taking the salary' isn't really it.

His expenses claims are the lowest of all MPs.

Labour are actually doing very little slagging off of the Tories (they're doing a good enough job of digging their own grave at the moment). In contrast, the entire Tory election campaign was predicated on May saying, 'I'm not JC.'

christinarossetti · 26/06/2017 11:26

TM won't call an election, but a vote of no confidence is looking more and more likely.

If the deal with the DUP does materialise, there will be more instability re the contravention of the GFA.

The Queen's speech hasn't been voted through yet, either.

Dawndonnaagain · 26/06/2017 11:27

The DUP has happened. Doesn't mean that it will last.

Dawndonnaagain · 26/06/2017 11:29

Shuffling about and refusing to make his position clear (because he's a Brexiter but no guts to admit it).
It would be awful inconvenient to imagine that maybe he supported the party despite his personal beliefs, wouldn't it.

christinarossetti · 26/06/2017 11:31

Yes, I've just seen that.

TM has bought them off.

This is a desperate bid to cling on to power, which will cause all sorts of instability in NI.

1ndigo · 26/06/2017 11:48

Dawn - he refused to mKe his position on Brexit clear for his own political ambition -whichever way it went, he could not be blamed. He acted politically - so much for the man of principle. But in keeping his head down at such a critical time, his party had no clear or coherent message and he allowed a huge proportion of the traditional Labour vote to swing to UKIP.
He is as much of a hypocrite as Boris - neither of them want to be PM. They just enjoy the glory of benefitting from the mistakes of the TM administration. It's an easy gig and they'll make the most of it while they can.

Nikephorus · 26/06/2017 11:51

Whatever else you can accuse JC of, 'taking the salary' isn't really it.

His expenses claims are the lowest of all MPs.

Expense claims are totally separate to salary! They're to pay additional work-related expenses like stationery.
He gets a big salary for being in opposition. He does bugger all for that extra amount except hug people and turn up at festivals. It's like being the CEO - you get paid £££s while someone else does the work. The PM on the other hand (regardless of who it is and which party) has to earn their salary. They're like being the CEO's secretary - chasing around like a headless chicken having to keep it all running.

Abitofaproblem · 26/06/2017 11:56

I agree with *1ndig

Abitofaproblem · 26/06/2017 11:57

I agree with 1ndigo

alltouchedout · 26/06/2017 12:03

There is a distinct pleasure to be found from listening to and reading the words of people who absolutely bloody hate JC and find his current popularity very hard to take.

pottered · 26/06/2017 12:04

i begin to think the best thing would be for him to manage Brexit - he'll make such a fiasco due to the whole 'benefits of the single market/managed migration' contradiction that it'll be the fastest way to get him out of power.

Mercime · 26/06/2017 12:06

He's just enjoying the publicity, safe in the knowledge that he's not going to have to do any hard work. All mouth and no substance, like his manifesto. I doubt he'd actually want to DO the job; it's more fun for him taking the salary and just slagging the Tories off while being hailed as wonderful.

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he's historically been brilliant at throwing bottles from the back. I can't see him wanting to be leader.

I don't like him much - he's too left wing for me BUT I think its incredibly healthy to have a strong opposition, he's managed to scare the Tories enough that they've watered down their ridiculous manifesto AND he has't realistically got a chance of becoming PM so its a win win for me :-)

Mercime · 26/06/2017 12:07

And I couldn't take him seriously over Brexit (which I very much wish wasnt happening) after he buggered off on holiday during the referendum campaign.

MrShadows · 26/06/2017 12:07

gosh all the hate for JC.yep lets slag him of and ignore what is going on under TM's goverment

Mercime · 26/06/2017 12:09

Where's the hate?? I don't hate him, I just don't think he'd make a very good PM and I think he realises that. Much better for him to be in opposition as he's actually quite good at that.

I happen to think idolising any kind of politician is silly

you should question everything and everyone!

pottered · 26/06/2017 12:12

i don't hate him but the idea that he represents something new is baseless - his manifesto is the biggest (un-affordable) giveaway in state spending we've seen since rebuilding after world war two. New in respect that he'll manage the economy as badly as the 1970s? Not sure that's laudable.

badger2005 · 26/06/2017 12:15

Ooh can we talk about the Tory £1Billion Dup deal, and which tree that is going to come from?