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To ask - Jeremy Corbyn - PM

613 replies

MommaGee · 26/06/2017 11:04

There's stuff about how he thinks he'll be PM in 6 months. How the GLASTO coverage is a BBC plot to "see a MARXIST in power" etc etc but how?
TM is hardly going to call another election and Labor are likely to keep her long enough to get through the crap that is Brexit.

Apologies for all those thinking in thick but I don't see how JC has any even inkling of getting it, let alone a discussion on how much swing he'd need

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pottered · 26/06/2017 13:12

i really struggle to understand badger why Corbyn ever took the min wage into a set £ commitment - Blair put this in the hands of the low page commission. They are people that absolutely 100% sign up to the idea that they want people paid a minimum wage. He could've run on a ticket to talk to the LPC about committing to a schedule of min wage increases, with the option to pause if adverse effects appeared.

none of this happened though - Corbyn's manifesto was all bam, bam, bam. Life just isn't that bloody simple.

I'm not even sure a min wage hike is going to help the main losers of economic liberalism in pockets of the UK where it's still hard to match the skills people have with the jobs being created. What about Corbyn's team saying they'll investigate that?

Walkingtowork · 26/06/2017 13:14

Now I can't imagine not voting Labour, and I believe even JC would do less damage than TM. However he's an embarrassment to the party and the sooner someone more intelligent takes over the better.

He will never win over the Tory voters needed to form a government. Three defeats in a row, and counting Sad

Walkingtowork · 26/06/2017 13:16

I'm not blaming him for the 2 defeats before this one! Just everything else Grin

badger2005 · 26/06/2017 13:16

Hmmm pottered you ask some good questions. Thank you all for making me think. I will think more - but have to do some actual work now!

BertrandRussell · 26/06/2017 13:16

"he is private school educated and lives in a leafy part of London

not sure whether that should matter but it sort of makes him slightly harder for me to warm to."

He went to a prep school, to which he presumably didn't send himself Grin and state secondary. And the area he lives in was far from "leafy" when he bought his house. Does that make you feel any warmer?

Elendon · 26/06/2017 13:17

There is likely to be another election, possibly even as soon as Autumn, more likely next year. The Conservatives are not going to be happy with numerous things, the DUP and, for some, the limp approach for Brexit, which will suit the majority of MPs (there is talk of bringing the last resolution back to a referendum as well). Not good!

May has made her own bed and must lie in it (I'm reminded of the saying lie down with dogs and you pick up fleas).

Sorry Brenda from Bristol.

Changedtocovermyass · 26/06/2017 13:18

1ndigo subtle way to nail your colours to the mast there. But your spouting a particular line chapter and verse there. Well done.

pottered · 26/06/2017 13:18

me too badger - i like your idea of informing principles and do think Corbyn's asked some good questions, he needs better, more careful policies.

Elendon · 26/06/2017 13:18

And the Conservatives will not win this next election either.

User843022 · 26/06/2017 13:20

'I find Corbyn absolutely abhorent and anyone supporting him is living in lala land but he has one hell of a PR team, what a find they were.'

Yes you've got to hand it to them, they've got crowds cheering a clown, they deserve a medal for how they've convinced some he is credible. Must've taken tips from Trump's campaign team.

Elendon · 26/06/2017 13:21

Mercime Stop giving generous holidays to people you employ on a minimum wage. That's no way to run a successful business.

1ndigo · 26/06/2017 13:24

What do you mean "nail my colours to the mast?" I voted LibDem but that's irrelevant.

makeourfuture · 26/06/2017 13:25

Tory Debt
Tory insecurity
Tory social housing unsafe
Tory No Plan Brexit
Tory NHS failure
Tory economic growth suffocation

Tories: unstable and weak.

Elendon · 26/06/2017 13:25

Oh and suddenly there is a magic money tree for the DUP. It's abhorrent.

Seriously after today and the mess that May has made of this, Jeremy Corbyn is a credible contender to bring stability and coherence back to this country.

OliviaPopeRules · 26/06/2017 13:26

the stuff about the IRA that implies ignorance of how diplomacy works

Again with this BS, JC was not involved in peace deal in NI so I don't think anyone needs lessons from him on how diplomacy works.

makeourfuture · 26/06/2017 13:27

Nobody voted on this terrible DUP/Tory regime!

Elendon · 26/06/2017 13:28

A deal with the DUP puts the Peace process in jeopardy.

Bluntness100 · 26/06/2017 13:30

I honestly think he has started to believe the hype. You know that way when someone gets all excited, full of it and thinks they are brilliant? He's gone that route.

The issue he has is us Brits love the under dog. Not someone crowing about how great they are. He really is behaving like he won. It's bizzare to watch. He's actually got a serious day job. He's leader of the opposition, instead he's fannying about at Glastonbury, taking selfies, telling folks he will be pm in six months and how he will get rid of trident, irrelevant of how his party feels about trident. Only his view matters apparantly.

I hate blokes like that. Who get all up themselves and start to crow. It's a hugely unattractive character flaw. There is sod all his MPs can do about it too, just hope the public see through him.

makeourfuture · 26/06/2017 13:32

Awful failed Tory austerity.

Killing growth!

Punishing the sick, disabled, poor and elderly.

Awful.

LaurieMarlow · 26/06/2017 13:33

All the snarking amongst the Torys about Corbyn's 'magic money tree', yet they've suddenly found 1bn to throw at the DUP, because they need them to haul them out of a mess entirely of their own making.

53rdWay · 26/06/2017 13:34

Sorry Brenda from Bristol. Grin

Honestly, anyone who thinks they know exactly how electable Corbyn is at this point is kidding themselves. We've had massive, unpredictable political change globally - the old models we used to determine who was 'electable' or not just don't work any more. People vote for different things than they would have done twenty years ago, pre-Iraq war and pre-2008 crash. You can't tell people that the status quo is the way to financial success when wages are stagnating and the young are facing increasing worse prospects compared to their parents.

The Conservative vote is now heavily concentrated in older generations, and particularly among the retired. Sneering at students and Glastonbury-goers is not going to fix the problems they're facing now. And unless they manage to make a fantastic success of Brexit, which let's just kindly say is not looking great so far, the immediate future doesn't look too rosy even if they can hang on for another couple of years.

LadyinCement · 26/06/2017 13:34

To be fair, I don't think the DUP are going to be spending £1b on statues of Ian Paisley and building temperance chapels. This money is for the people of Norther Ireland. Why do Northern Irish people somehow not count ? If that Welsh Leanne woman had done a deal with JC with her, what is it, three seats? Or Caroline Lucas with the one seat demonstrating that a large part of Britain supports the Green Party, there wouldn't have been so much bleating. And as for those who posted, "Hurrah, Sinn Fein may be coming to Westminster" in order to shore up a JC attempt at government - shame on you.

mothertruck3r · 26/06/2017 13:35

I think it is funny that even with the worst Tory manifesto in existence and the awful Teresa May as PM with Corbyn offering everything under the sun to everyone, he still lost by 55 seats.

I also think that the Tories probably wanted to lose and let Corbyn deal with the mess of Brexit.

I imagine if the Tories had offered a better manifesto that wasn't so horribly negative, they would have quite easily got a majority.

1ndigo · 26/06/2017 13:36

I wonder how many at Glastonbury actually voted Brexit?
And yet there they all are, dancing to the drone of a Brexiteer - and a Marxist one at that.
I have to hand it to JC's PR team - roll him out in the sunshine where everyone's had a few beers and happy days!

makeourfuture · 26/06/2017 13:36

No one voted for this awful regime!