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To ask - Jeremy Corbyn - PM

613 replies

MommaGee · 26/06/2017 11:04

There's stuff about how he thinks he'll be PM in 6 months. How the GLASTO coverage is a BBC plot to "see a MARXIST in power" etc etc but how?
TM is hardly going to call another election and Labor are likely to keep her long enough to get through the crap that is Brexit.

Apologies for all those thinking in thick but I don't see how JC has any even inkling of getting it, let alone a discussion on how much swing he'd need

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OliviaPopeRules · 26/06/2017 13:37

*To Jeremy Corbin's credit he didn't do any of the following ...

Call a foolish, ill-thought out referendum, mostly to shut up the extreme right of his party, without any plan for dealing with the fall out if the result didn't go his way.

Call a foolish, ill-thought through snap election due to misplaced confidence in the party's popularity and end up losing his majority, having to get into bed with the repulsive DUP on the eve of the most important negotiations of the country's recent history.*

Well neither did I but I still don't think I'd make a good PM!

JC's speciality is sitting on the sidelines doing nothing and criticising.

LaurieMarlow · 26/06/2017 13:38

Being Irish, I'm not actually complaining about the money going to NI. However, the press release mentions its for schools (as well as infrastructure/hospitals) and as it happens, NI has some of the best schools in the entire country.

If I were from a deprived area of Wales or the North of England, I'd be mightily pissed off that money was being spent on that as a bribe to prop up May's regime.

LaurieMarlow · 26/06/2017 13:39

JC's speciality is sitting on the sidelines doing nothing and criticising.

Even if that were true, it's still far better than actively shafting the country out of stupidity/incompetence/over confidence.

makeourfuture · 26/06/2017 13:39

Every day more news of Tory Brexit negotiation failure.

makeourfuture · 26/06/2017 13:40

Every day.

Maxandrubyrubyandmax · 26/06/2017 13:41

Syssysref. His PR team are fucking fantastic! It takes big bands years to get onto the pyramid stage. Basically what his team have done is say who are our key voters - let's make shit loads of unrealistic promises to these people and ignore hoe we can realistically solve this countrys problems. The problem with the country is everyone thinks they have a right to everything. People kicking off cos they can't live on £20k a year. The Tories thought they had it in the bag and tried to sort out some major issues with the slack they had. Unfortunately didn't go v well but even with everything in JCs favour with a cherry on top he still lost by a good 20%. I think it was now or never for him. So hopefully that's s never

makeourfuture · 26/06/2017 13:41

No plan, no hope Tories.

BertrandRussell · 26/06/2017 13:41

"JC's speciality is sitting on the sidelines doing nothing and criticising."

I probably wouldn't put it like that precisely myself - but that rather is the job of the Leader of the Opposition! What are you expecting him to be doing? You know, what with not being in Gorernment and all..........

FriendPlease · 26/06/2017 13:42

I think tories have had enough time to push through their policies and we can see their effect everywhere, some feel it more, some less. I don't think tories have done a good job and their plans haven't made this country any stabler, stronger or better in any way. Tm is their current leader and her only strength is keeping the public concentration on issues such as corbyn and brexit rather than the negative effects their policies have had on this country.

makeourfuture · 26/06/2017 13:43

Unfortunately didn't go v well

Understatement. Failure at everything.

53rdWay · 26/06/2017 13:43

I'm fine with NI getting more money for infrastructure and public services. I'm less fine with them getting money that isn't Barnett-formulad out to the rest of us, specifically as the price of letting the Conservatives limp on for a little while longer. If that had been the SNP and Corbyn instead of the DUP and May, there would have been absolute howling about it.

pottered · 26/06/2017 13:43

brexit is an utter horseshit sandwich. It's a cross party horse shit sandwich - that's what referenda get you. Didn't Cameron resign saying 'i'm not dealing with this shit'. Best thing he ever said!

let's face it, whoever pushes that pile of steaming doggy-doo through is going to lose badly at the next election.

makeourfuture · 26/06/2017 13:47

Tories voted against safe housing.

makeourfuture · 26/06/2017 13:47

Tories voted against safe housing.

OliviaPopeRules · 26/06/2017 13:49

Even if that were true, it's still far better than actively shafting the country out of stupidity/incompetence/over confidence.

The referendum was not just about the conservative party, the result proved there was a lot of voters that wanted to leave the EU.

I love how no-one gave a shit about the DUP, their policies and the lack of womens rights in NI and suddenly everyone cares!

Come back a year after JC is PM and you can tell me all about how competent he is being.

pottered · 26/06/2017 13:51

I think Corbyn's shrillness on Grenfell could backfire on him - a proper inquiry is needed to establish all of the points at which things didn't happen to prevent that cladding being used.

-why wasn't it banned outright?
-why did the companies using it agree to it? What about the auditors.

Laying this at the door of the tories without a proper investigation is bloody lazy emotional manipulation of a terrible tragedy.

OliviaPopeRules · 26/06/2017 13:54

I probably wouldn't put it like that precisely myself - but that rather is the job of the Leader of the Opposition! What are you expecting him to be doing? You know, what with not being in Gorernment and all..........
even when his party was in government he still did the same, voting against many of their policies. Nothing to do with being leader of the opposition.

User843022 · 26/06/2017 13:57

'I think it is funny that even with the worst Tory manifesto in existence and the awful Teresa May as PM with Corbyn offering everything under the sun to everyone, he still lost by 55 seats.'

Grin
christinarossetti · 26/06/2017 13:57

Except that attempts by Labour to amend the housing bill to ensure that rented accommodation is fit for human habitation was voted down by Conservative MPs only last year.

The only party to vote against it was the Conservative Party, many of whom are multiple landlords.

I think JC might have a point tbh.

OliviaPopeRules · 26/06/2017 13:58

I think Corbyn's shrillness on Grenfell could backfire on him - a proper inquiry is needed to establish all of the points at which things didn't happen to prevent that cladding being used.

I wish this were true but I don't think this is what will happen. The genius of Corbyn is that he has decades of being an MP without ever having any association with a government. So even if there are causes that go back to the Brown/Blair years Corbyn can still distance himself because he spent so many years slagging them off.

LaurieMarlow · 26/06/2017 13:58

The referendum was not just about the conservative party, the result proved there was a lot of voters that wanted to leave the EU

And the same referendum proved no clarity whatsoever on the terms we might leave the EU on. So all those people voting to leave were voting for a brexit that existed entirely in their own head. With no real understanding of the implications.

It was an utter shambles and to deny that is just foolish.

christinarossetti · 26/06/2017 13:58

Almost as funny as TM calling an unnecessary snap election to strengthen her majority, causing her to lose her majority and go grovelling to the DUP.

OliviaPopeRules · 26/06/2017 14:02

It was an utter shambles and to deny that is just foolish.

Not for people who wanted to leave to EU, they are happy as they are getting what they wanted and no-one knows yet how good or bad it will be economically.

Bluntness100 · 26/06/2017 14:03

Corbyns experience is in being a rabble rousing back bencher, that's where he has historically been and to be fair what he's good at. And there is a place for it.

This miking the youth thing can only go so far. He's focusing on the degree students, and they often jump ship once they are earning, so he does need to capitalise fast. Eliminating tuition fees is a one trick pony, once it's done, it's done. He will need to find something else to promise them. If the tories just did it, they would take the youth vote off him faster than you can say nine grand and it would be game over.

I wonder how much he enjoyed glasto and how long he was there for. It's not every 70 year olds cup of tea, and I doubt it's his. It's all just a bit silly really,

WavingBranches · 26/06/2017 14:06

My DH says let him and his group have a go at running the country their way.

I often think my DH lacks a bit of empathy.

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