To not want my ds subjected to this at school

[requestingsunshine]

We don't swear at home, well I might have uttered the odd word, but generally speaking we don't swear. I am under no illusion that my children know swear words. However AIBU to expect that during a school lesson my ds (yr 6) shouldn't have to listen to the foul language coming out of a fellow pupil with the teacher doing nothing about it except telling the child 'not to swear'. Yesterday this child told the teacher and other pupils to fuck off 20 times in the space of one hour.

This is an everyday thing, but yesterday there were more fucks than usual apparently.

I don't understand why the school allow it to go on.

[Floggingmolly]

I see, viques, sorry. Bit slow today, must be the heat.

[requestingsunshine]

The wink was in reply to finallythroughtheroofs wink

I will leave it there. The arguments put forward from those who think I'm being unreasonable to want my 10 year old not to be subjected to swearing and disruption everyday at school haven't changed my mind.

I'm not out to get this kid. I have never once said he needs throwing out of school, only that it needs dealing with and I find it amazing it's still going on after such a long time. My ds is my priority at the end of the day.

I don't have privy to his school records. However it's a small town and his aunt is a good friend. He has quite a rough family environment - no bedtime, parents swear in everyday speak , older brother in prison. Father is currently banned from the school for shouting at teachers. So he has issues. Nothing medically diagnosed though.

[hifi]

Wait until he gets to secondary, its off scale.

[Saucery]

Well, there you go. All,the reasons he swears in class.

[CorbynsBumFlannel]

Why would his aunt necessarily tell you if there were medical issues? It's not like you'd be particularly sympathetic. I don't even tell my good friends my niece and nephews medical history. It's not my place to tell anyone.

[VintagePerfumista]

Ah, the family gossip.

Smashing.

Such a small town that you might want to hope that someone who knows him and his family isn't a MNer?

Might want to get this deleted now OP. You've done your bit.

Gah- quite.

[mumoseven]

Bitter Lol at the idea of empty places at special schools just waiting to receive sweary disruptive kids.
I come home most days(from a mainstream primary) having been sworn at or hit or utterly disrespected. I am almost at the end of my tether these days. I hate that my kids have to share classroom space with children like this, or have to be evacuated from a room while someone else's little darling is throwing chairs etc. I hate that one child can often take the time and attention of 3 adults just to maintain peace. I hate that some children whose backgrounds are dreadful do not get the help they need simply because they suffer quietly and unnoticed, whilst these other kids take up disproportionate time. And don't get me started on the parents.
Rant over. Bad day.

[GahBuggerit]

Why am I not surprised youre going to leave it there?

Hard to make the story fit together now?

[VintagePerfumista]

Perhaps the aunt wouldn't know if he had medical issues? Perhaps she's sussed you're a bit of a blabbermouth who might go and tell 20,000 MNers about him?

Perhaps his background is enough of a complex situation to mean he has behavioural issues which aren't medical?

[CorbynsBumFlannel]

All children - even those with 'issues' are entitled to an education. The only way to stop your son from hearing this may be to move the child to another school. Why should other children have to hear it instead?
Do you honestly think that the school are doing nothing to address the issue or that you are better placed than the school Senco to decide how to manage the behaviour?

[GahBuggerit]

As a side I must say OP you must build rapports very quickly to have made a good friend in a short space of time who tells you everything about their family.

[CorbynsBumFlannel]

Looks like the DM may now be getting their 'reporters' to start threads that they can later lift...

[edwinbear]

I've spent the last 20 years working on a bank trading floor. He'll fit in perfectly swearing every other second - although he'll need to learn something a bit more shocking than 'fuck' beforehand 😂

[Spikeyball]

You say he's not upset by it and understands not to copy. No issue then.

[VintagePerfumista]

Corbyn- there have been that many threads today that nothing would surprise me anymore.

[FinallyThroughTheRoof]

And why woukd it be Ok for kids in special schools to be sworn in front of?

People are always advocating sending rhe aggressive kids there too as long as they arent in mainstream.

[donquixotedelamancha]

There are really only two possibilities: either the school and teacher are amazingly terrible, or the kid has tourettes (yes I've seen you say that he doesn't).

I think it's very surprising if its just a behaviour issue. It's pretty rare that things get this bad. If it definately is abusing others then I would be sat in that heads office insisting on removal and writing to everyone who'd listen if it is ignored. LEA, Ofsted, Governors.

If it's tourettes (the swearing will not be directed at others, though may sometimes seem so) then the best solution is to ignore it. If its as bad as you say the class should have been told and all students should be clear on the management plan and how they should behave. The school can share this with you (in a managed way, with parental involvement)- it's not realistic to pretend nothing's happening.

[Toysaurus]

To be honest, I've felt like shouting at useless and bullying head teachers during the hard slog navigating services to get an ASD diagnosis. Which didn't come until he was nine. No diagnosis for this child yet. But if there was that would just spoil this thread designed to get the anti Sen posters going.

Child who swears in class with no support and no funding in schools to support perfectly. Throw in some shit parenting and a family member in prison. Do they have a trampoline in their garden too?

[elevenclips]

The child must have very significant difficulties to be behaving like this. At least your child is Y6 and leaving the school in a few weeks.

I like swearing and let my Y6 ds swear at home. However, hell would freeze over before he told a teacher to "fuck off"

[FinallyThroughTheRoof]

Thats good you dont allow yout NT child to tell the teacher to fuck off but quite a separate issue.

[soapboxqueen]

Can all those that 'know' a child doesn't have SEN please make themselves available to the NHS. They'll save a fortune by screening patients.


All those who have solutions that actually work and aren't just Educational NIMBYism please step forward.