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"England"= whole uk

165 replies

Cocklodger · 21/06/2017 09:43

Aibu to get very annoyed with people thinking England is the entire uk?
So if you're British you're very clearly also English. Even to some british people (unreasonable but understandable when it's a foreigner saying it, although it's annoying being asked how things work in "England" when I've never lived there) perhaps I'm more aware As I'm not English but I find it very tiresome (perhaps English people wouldn't notice it as of course in that case it's accurate)
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Kursk · 23/06/2017 18:51

Tapandgo

No Canada and America are separate countries

MiladyThesaurus · 23/06/2017 20:06

It's different for foreign people to do it, but it is inexcusable for English people to substitute England for the whole UK.

BewtySkoolDropowt · 24/06/2017 14:29

Kursk, technically Canada is part of America, which is made up of South, Central and North America. Canada and the USA make up North America.

America is not a country (but the term is commonly used instead of the USA)

Its a minefield!

babybarrister · 24/06/2017 14:34

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SenecaFalls · 24/06/2017 14:40

Mexico is also part of North America.

thepatchworkcat · 24/06/2017 14:47

Wait a minute... going back a page or two but Cornwall isn't England...?...

Esspee · 24/06/2017 15:56

Just read this thread so forgive my delayed reaction to clandestino's English = ......Oscar Wild, Robert Stevenson....
I am assuming he/she meant Oscar Wilde (Irish) and either Robert Louis Stevenson (Scottish) or Robert Stevenson (also Scottish).

BewtySkoolDropowt · 24/06/2017 23:18

Seneca and Greenland can be classed as part of the American continent. As I said, it's a minefield! I didn't mention those though, because I was referring to an 'America and Canada are two separate countries' comment, rather than trying to define it perfectly.

llangennith · 24/06/2017 23:30

I live in Wales and it's surprising how many people from other countries think it's a place in England. I just smile and say it's another country actuallyAngry
At Disney's Magic Kingdom one of the nicest rides is 'It's a Small World". A lovely ride in boats past animated dolls from just about every country in the world. Except Wales. England, Scotland and Ireland are all represented. But not Wales.

WizardOfToss · 25/06/2017 00:01

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Akire · 25/06/2017 00:13

Oh yes, drives me up wall. All this bretix means 99% people say when England leave EU when mean UK.
Had celebrations about black and Caribbean members of Commonweatlh who finally had a memorial for WW1 unveiled on Friday , still people saying how amazing that they are being regonised they fought for England!! Argh I wanted to throw stuff at the TV. I'm pretty sure World wars happened to the rest of us too.

I once was a on train from London someone asked me where I was going I said Wales they had no idea where it was. this was someone loved in uk for 5years.

Clandestino · 25/06/2017 09:00

Espee
Just read this thread so forgive my delayed reaction to clandestino's English = ......Oscar Wild, Robert Stevenson...I am assuming he/she meant Oscar Wilde (Irish) and either Robert Louis Stevenson (Scottish) or Robert Stevenson (also Scottish).

I'm assuming Espee knows how to google. I suggest starting with Poe's law.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/06/2017 09:54

""Her Majesty, by the Grace of God; Elizabeth the Second, of England, Wales and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms, Elizabeth the First of Scotland; Elizabeth, Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth and Defender of the Faith"

Um...maybe 'The Queen of England' should be viewed merely as a nickname?Grin

tadjennyp · 25/06/2017 10:12

Robert Stephenson (of Rocket fame) was born in Northumberland.

BoysofMelody · 25/06/2017 10:46

It's different for foreign people to do it, but it is inexcusable for English people to substitute England for the whole UK.

It is typical of a certain overweening arrogance amongst a certain type of English person. Their particular flavour of British identity (white/English/often from the south east of English) is the default type of Britishness and anything else is an abberation.

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