"England"= whole uk

[Cocklodger]

Aibu to get very annoyed with people thinking England is the entire uk?
So if you're British you're very clearly also English. Even to some british people (unreasonable but understandable when it's a foreigner saying it, although it's annoying being asked how things work in "England" when I've never lived there) perhaps I'm more aware As I'm not English but I find it very tiresome (perhaps English people wouldn't notice it as of course in that case it's accurate)
Aibu?

It is all very annoying and misleading. I also get rather peed off that most forms etc don't allow me to be English, I have to be British, but the same form will have options for Scottish and Welsh.

On here,it is pretty bad. People talk about the British education system or British legal system when they mean the English system or someone will post. 'i'm based on Scotland and I'm having X education/legal problem' and people will say stuff like ' contact Ofsted' or will cite legal statutes that don't apply in Scotland.

I only hear American's do it. 'I visited England', 'I love England' etc, when they mean the UK.

The majority of Americans visiting the UK are visiting England (well, London) though.

I find a lot of British people 'love visiting
America' but they've actually only been to Kissimmee. I'm not offended or annoyed because why would I be? I don't know the entire political geography of the earth and its people and I'm not arrogant enough to assume everyone should know all about my bit of the earth.

There is no excuse for a British person not understanding that English doesn't mean Scottish or welsh though. Very strange

I want to scream NO OFSTED in scotland on threads but i am polite, a mumsnetter did call me stupid once and they went off to google scottish ofsted funnily enough they didn't come back with the link

Germans do that and just don't seem to grasp why it is annoying which is weird for a federal state like Germany, because I bet they'd not be happy if I'd say Bavaria when I mean Germany.

... except the Bavarians, they'd be delighted. Probably.

Possibly to do with the fact that Bavaria didn't go out and conquer the rest of Germany and forced everyone to speak Bavarian.

If you speak German, you are German, if you speak English, you are English. That's probably the logic.

In short, the fact that England dominates the other countries makes such mistakes more likely to happen.

I get that it also makes them extra annoying, but that's how it is in mainland Europe.

Can't understand why British people do it, though, I mean, they should know better.

YADNBU

I am Welsh, living in England. I used to work in a travel ins company which had people from all over the world working there and it used to come up quite often. I always got told '...because you're English'. I'm not English, I am Welsh or British.

One woman especially used to do this to me all the time. She was lovely and never meant any harm by it but it does get tiresome after a while. She said, well you live in England now. I said well so do you but it doesn't mean you're not Israeli! I think she got it then... kinda.

My accent is not so strong you'd struggle to understand me unless I'm drunk/angry/talking to Welshies but it's definitely there!

Try living on the Isle of Man and having to constantly explain to English people that:

It's not off the south coast
We are not English
We are not in the UK
We are not in the EU
We pay the same VAT as they do.

Makes their heads explode.

Yes to Scotland being referred to as a whole on the news, never the specific area.

Also people (usually American) saying that they like/dislike a 'British accent'. I live in Glasgow and certainly don't speak like someone from Bristol!

If you speak German, you are German, if you speak English, you are English. That's probably the logic. Holy gamoley, Vestal, I hope you've never said that to an Austrian! Bist augrennt?

My Mum worked with three teachers (this is England) and had to argue the toss with all three that no, Dublin was NOT one of the capital cities of the UK.

Indeed, uglyswan - or a Swiss person.

English is apparently predominant in the following countries outside of the UK (and I expect the inhabitants would, quite rightly, be horrified to be called 'English'):

Antigua and Barbuda
Australia
The Bahamas
Barbados
Belize
Canada*
Dominica
Grenada
Guyana
Ireland
Jamaica
New Zealand
St Kitts and Nevis
St Lucia
St Vincent and the Grenadines
Trinidad and Tobago
United States of America

My windows are shaking with the vibration of all the tutting I did about 5 minutes ago seeing a British person refer to the Queen of England.

Casual errors made by anyone from the rest of the world I can handle, because why should they care, though it's irritating to be told my Scots/Irish/Italian background is near as dammit English and I'm being needlessly pedantic to say otherwise.

My windows are shaking with the vibration of all the tutting I did about 5 minutes ago seeing a British person refer to the Queen of England.

And this happens all the time on MN. Queen/King of England is not an actual legal title anyway. It, along with Queen/King of Scots, disappeared with the Act of Union.

I'm happy with queen of England/Scots!

And this happens all the time on MN. Queen/King of England is not an actual legal title anyway. It, along with Queen/King of Scots, disappeared with the Act of Union. yes MN. I'm forever correcting statements about Prince William 'the future King of England'.

Can someone explain the royal titles. I thought she was the queen of England, the way Charles is the prince of wales.

Apparently Liz's title in the UK is:
"Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith"

That's a pretty bad ass title

"Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second Of course some of us Scots don't like this either. She's Elizabeth the First for us

That was addressed in the wiki

It annoys me when the National news reports on football matches as 'we did this, we did that' when they are talking about the England team. A lot of viewers out there in the UK are not England fans media people! (No disrespect to England, btw, it's just we'd rather support our home countries and the reporters just sort of blank us out).

Also, watching any English produced programme - if the presenter visits anywhere in Wales or Scotland, they'll simply describe it as 'this restaurant, here in Wales/ Scotland...'! WHERE IN WALES/SCOTLAND? I sit there trying to work it out.

They'd never say 'this restaurant, here in England...'

Deepfriedpizza I've just rtft and realise that you made the same point as me. Isn't it irritating?

I sit there trying to gauge where it could be by the landscapes/ landmarks.

One I've just thought of - anything within about 50miles of Cardiff is referred to as "x, just outside Cardiff". Including two other cities ffs!!

I get the rage over accents, mainly in American shows, about British accents. Its not british, its generic english accent. They either do super posh or cockney. They not heard of Scotland, Wales, NI? They dont talk like that.

It annoys me when the National news reports on football matches as 'we did this, we did that' when they are talking about the England team.
The worst for this is Ben Shephard on GMB and on Tipping Point where he does a mock Scottish accent