"England"= whole uk

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Aibu to get very annoyed with people thinking England is the entire uk?
So if you're British you're very clearly also English. Even to some british people (unreasonable but understandable when it's a foreigner saying it, although it's annoying being asked how things work in "England" when I've never lived there) perhaps I'm more aware As I'm not English but I find it very tiresome (perhaps English people wouldn't notice it as of course in that case it's accurate)
Aibu?

read definitely. And the assumption that everyone there is starving and/or a criminal

It just bothers me how everything that's not in England is a second thought. For example I was watching eat well for less and the family were from " Glasgow". They weren't based in Glasgow as I recognised their Supermarket as being my local one. The narrator kept saying "meanwhile back in Scotland" when coming back to the family.

Nobody would ever say "meanwhile back in England" they would say "meanwhile back in Blackpool or wherever"

YANBU. News reports routinely refer to the education system, health system etc without even the briefest mention that they're talking about systems which only apply in England

We are in wales and I've had other parents with primary aged kids saying to me that we are moving to 1-9 GCSE system - err no in Wales it's staying A* - G.

But they'd seen it on the news .

It irritates the hell out of me, as a Welsh person living in Wales (with Scottish and European heritage and not a smidge of English in me)

Quick straw poll though, does anyone here refer to the Netherlands as Holland?

Weather has been interesting the uk has a heatwave no it does not some of the Uk has a heatwave while i feel for people melting i 30 degrees don't say we are all experiencing a heat wave RAIN. Yanbu and it pisses me right off.

Isn't this the same thing that British and other Westerners do about Africa. They go on holiday to The Gambia for instance. When they go back home they say they went to Africa instead of specifying the country they went to.

There is a slight difference there though. I couldn't name all of the African countries - maybe a dozen if I really thought about it. So saying you've been to Africa is no different to saying you went to Europe or South America on holiday. If someone was that interested they'd ask which country they went to. They are all massive continents.

The UK is tiny in the grand scheme of things and is only made up of 4 countries. Making England and UK interchangeable is pure ignorance. Much like calling The Netherlands Holland.

So annoying, and quite an insignificant issue but it pisses me off when bands announce that they're doing a UK tour which is actually 3 nights in London.

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I couldn't care less if people mix up my nationality (Irish) and think i'm English or whatever - but technically what you said below is incorrect - Ireland is nor part of Britain. Britian is an island and Ireland is an island. The UK includes Northern Ireland.

They were chanting "keep Britain English" ok wales, Scotland and Ireland will all just swim off somewhere then hmm

It annoys me when the BBC does it. They'll talk about "the" health secretary when they mean the health secretary for England. The will always use the word "Scottish" before any Scottish MSP ministers, it's frustrating when they don't do the same for English ones.
Even the UK Gov site on the secretary of state for health doesn't clarify that the post just applies to England.

News reports routinely refer to the education system, health system etc without even the briefest mention that they're talking about systems which only apply in England

Not true of the BBC - they always say the "NHS in England". Mind you, I've yet to hear them report on the NHS in another part of the UK!

My biggest bug-bear is the England football team using the British national anthem. Outrageous and I can't understand why it's allowed.

but it's 'Perth in Scotland

to distinguish it from Perth in Australia perhaps?

Relatives from the US came over for a family wedding recently. On their Faceache posts, they announced they were going to London. They weren't, though - they came to Surrey. And all their American friends were posting things like "Stay safe, London isn't a good place to be at the moment" or "Stay away from crowded places", or "OMG - hurry up and come home to the safety of the US"
Yeah - where your gun laws allow you to all shoot each other at the drop of a hat

Cad, trust me it's equally annoying to African people. It's an equivalent of 'all Africans look the same'.

You don't go on holiday to Spain and announce that you were on holiday in Europe, do you? I guess what I'm getting at is, people on here find it annoying that people assume England=UK and vice versa. It's equally annoying to say Nigeria=Africa rather than recognising Africa as the diverse continent that it is.

I've never known anyone refer to The Gambia, or Nigeria, or wherever, collectively as 'Africa' (although I don't doubt some people must do). Everyone I know always pinpoints their location exactly.

I wonder if the media refers to NHS England specifically as England sometimes has slightly different procedures. eg, in Wales they don't pay prescription charges. Could this be one of the reasons possibly?

I took dd to a UK tour of a play in Newcastle it is only a few hundred miles to Scotland they could have just travelled on TUT

I don't get too worked up about people from foreign countries getting it wrong, but the use of UK for England is infuriating.
I heard a man on the radio saying how they do this in Scotland whereas in the UK we do that. Not elsewhere in the UK. At least that time the presenter picked him up on it, to which he got the usual reply 'Well, you know what I mean'. English people used to say England when they meant the UK, now it's the other way around, but it's ignorance and arrogance in both cases.
And again on the radio: Bill from Oldham, Bob from Norwich and Ian from Scotland. Grrr!

However, I see quite a few posts on here from Scottish posters moaning that it's raining in Scotland, when it's actually just raining in their part of Scotland. That's irritating too.

Surely the equivalent with Africa (if we scale it up to continent>country rather than nation>country) would be saying Nigerians are Egyptian?

Mulled sorry, that wasn't the clearest example perhaps - any town outside England is 'wherever in Wales/Scotland/NI', whereas English placenames seem to qualify in their own right.

Yanbu. I live in Denmark. I've started writing to newspaper editors, publishers, tv news to point out that the country is the UK, calling Gordon Brown the english pm is really wrong, as is the english mp Michael Martin. Apparently brexit is only happening in england.

I really like

Does it annoy people from NI when English/Welsh/Scottish say British to include them? Have always wondered about this when I see northern Irish representing Great Britain at sporting events.

Also, sorry about my fellow English. My only excuse is our poor education system which doesn't (or maybe just in my case didn't) cover domestic history. You'd think that would be important wouldn't you!

Fluff - I guess it does get difficult as there's no word for UKish, but "GB" should still only be used when NI isn't included.

Yanbu i ,m English and it annoys the hell of me that we are very London centric What with being an northerner, it must be ten times worse coming from other parts of the UK.

Redexpat - I like that video. Might save the final Venn diagram for next time I talk about it

I was chatting to an American chap in florida, oh whereare you from. Scotland i say oh my gt aunt betty is in Scotland maybe you have heard of her Betty Cambell ? urmmm no sorry