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Why is no one talking about this?

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notthebackdoordear · 20/06/2017 23:11

Manchester terror attack, London terror attack, general election, Grenfell Tower fire... all hotly debated on my FB.

No one I repeat NO ONE NOT OBE PERSON has mentioned Finsbury Park terror attack on my FB.

Is this accepted racism? Do they not care about this because the victims are Muslim? Or, dare I say it, brown?

Can't believe the indifference!!!!

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notthebackdoordear · 20/06/2017 23:11

ONE not OBE

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PaperdollCartoon · 20/06/2017 23:12

It's been mentioned a lot on my Facebook, and a lot of calling out of it not being referred to as terrorism in MSM.

Lj8893 · 20/06/2017 23:13

Same for my fb too. One person shared a news article when it first happened but I haven't seen anything since. But then even the media report it completely differently!

OptimisticOllie · 20/06/2017 23:14

You clearly choose to get your news, and your views, from Facebook rather than official sources...

notthebackdoordear · 20/06/2017 23:14

Just for context I am a white female from the North (if that's relevant)

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Madbum · 20/06/2017 23:14

I put a post up expressing my sadness about what happened and not one person reacted or responded I don't understand it.

HoneyDragon · 20/06/2017 23:15

All over my FB still.

notthebackdoordear · 20/06/2017 23:16

I put a post on FB today to gauge reaction and one person actually commented "what's happened? Another attack?"

Confused
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busyboysmum · 20/06/2017 23:16

No-one is talking about the guy shot dead in France or the one whose just blown himself up in Belgium either. Maybe people are just all exhausted of being over wrought about stuff and want to enjoy the sunshine and normal life. Plus I suppose it's not like there's a risk of more of the same. Seems to have been a one off nutter.

The really terrifying situations have been where there have been bombs involved or more than one person roaming with guns or knives.

MayJuneJuly · 20/06/2017 23:17

Lots of people have mentioned it on my facebook.

I corrected someone in the office who didn't term it a terrorist attack though. I think it's really important to make the same connection. This is terrorism plain and simple.

Beeziekn33ze · 20/06/2017 23:17

On my fb. Some are Welsh friends shocked that the perp was from Cardiff, via Weston super Mare. He sounds like the local loser bully who has self radicalised after reading certain newspapers.
Still awful and terrorism of course.

NoLoveofMine · 20/06/2017 23:18

I appreciate it's not what's deemed "terrorism" but it upsets me greatly so little attention is given to women and girls who are murdered, such as this horrific attack on a young woman purely for being female just walking home from college last Friday afternoon: www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/innocent-people-loved-monsters-too-10656564

So many horrific events get little attention. I've seen and heard a lot of people including those I know talking about the Finsbury Park attack, though in my opinion it is receiving much less attention generally than it would be if it was an attack perpetrated by someone doing it in the name of Islamic fundamentalism.

moutonfou · 20/06/2017 23:18

I think it may also be as only (and I use the word only purely in a comparative way) one person died in the Finsbury Park attack. Not to minimise the impact of that death on his family and friends and the impact of the attack on the community, but in terms of the number of victims, the other tragedies have been on a bigger scale.

Many of the Grenfell victims were Muslim so I am not sure race plays a role. I just think the Grenfell tragedy in particular was on such a big scale, and so many questions remain unanswered, that a lot of people's attention is still focused on that event.

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 20/06/2017 23:19

You're right, OP. People can deny it all they want, but it's plain to see that this is 'thought of' differently by a large number of people. What's the point in trying to pretend otherwise.

Fruitbat1980 · 20/06/2017 23:20

Awful as it is I think it's some grief fatigue, on the back of the many who died in Grenfell, (and those in Manchester and London) one life taken is no longer 'big news' don't get me wrong, I don't think that's right, but it's how it seems. FwiW it was on my FB feed by many, in dispair that such retaliation occurred. The guy was clearly a drunken but job.

NothingRhymesWithOrange · 20/06/2017 23:20

All over FB here too, and all over twitter. (Also a white female - but I do live in a liberal London bubble...)

Having said that, I also think there's a bit of crisis fatigue going on. Not because of who the victims are, but because, sadly, this is the 4th major tragic event the uk has seen in a short space of time.

TittyGolightly · 20/06/2017 23:21

You should live here. The van from the Finsbury attack was hired from a place a mile or so down the road from me. Today armed police stopped a car full of "brown men so they must be muslim terrorists" about half a mile away. People have gone insane about it. Fuckwits.

ohfourfoxache · 20/06/2017 23:21

Bit of discussion on mine - but mainly because one of my friends is a wonderful, prominent female Muslim whose background is human rights. Oh, and a family of Mormons (father is a local leader) who have expressed their disgust.

Unfortunately though it seems as though the only mention has been from those with a deeper than average religious background. Not a lot from anyone else Hmm Sad

NothingRhymesWithOrange · 20/06/2017 23:21

*grief fatigue - that's the phrase I was griping for. Fruitbat put it more articulately than me

notthebackdoordear · 20/06/2017 23:21

Nolove I am from Wigan so a lot is being said about that incident on my FB.

I think it is more to do with what you mentioned about it being purported as a "one off", minimized because he isn't an "Islamic radicalist".

It makes me very sad indeed.

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NothingRhymesWithOrange · 20/06/2017 23:21

groping. I need sleep.

BunsOfAnarchy · 20/06/2017 23:22

I agree, sort of. I am British Asian so I do have many friends and family who are Brit-Asian on fb and have shared it. But not as much coverage as I thought...

I have seen it finally be referred to as a terror attack. Which is exactly what it is. There is a clear difference in the methods of reporting this terrible crime, vs the terror attacks in Westminster etc. So I guess there is a racial bias in the media. It feels like every few days I have to contact a friend or a family member to see if they are okay...

My heart goes out to all those caught up in the events of late. Grenfell tower totally broke me. The world is a shit place at the momet

NoLoveofMine · 20/06/2017 23:23

You could also say that most rapes barely make any news. Most won't know that within 3 days in January two men who'd already been previously convicted of rape went on to attack again, two young women just going about their days. Two of many. Or the countless women who die at the hands of partners or former partners. Shana Grice, Alice Ruggles to name two whose killers were recently convicted. There is a great deal of horrific crime which barely gets any attention.

IrritatedUser1960 · 20/06/2017 23:23

Funnily enough there is nothing on my facebook either despite most of my friends being left wing social warriors unlike me.
There were loads of posts about not all muslims being terrorists when the previous attacks happened but none this time - weird.

PoppyTree · 20/06/2017 23:24

Also had many people acknowledging it on my FB. By me too.

It was an awful cruel attack by a horrible man.

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