Something has happened at Finsbury Park, London

[nakedscientist]

It seems to be another van driving into people. I live near there and have been hearing a lot of sirens. How scary and utterly depressing!

There was the so called 'jihadi Jake' suicide bomber.

It's entirely possible for damaged/vulnerable members of any race to be radicalised (for any cause)

No, Stealth, there was Richard Reid, the shoe bomber. (For ages afterwards, you had to put your shoes through the X-ray at the airport.)

Daily Fail are a bunch of useless, gutter press twats, who have no ability to produce anything that even resembles fact. I can't believe people actually go to the effort of reading/buying this sorry excuse for a newspaper. They must receive in-house awards for whoever can write the most outlandish fictional stories.

The attack happened on 7 Sisters Road and nowhere near the Mosque, it just happened to be the nearest point of interest, so the Fail decided to go with a version of events that creates more hatred.

The media play a massive part in stirring up situations and creating tensions in this country, and worldwide. They should be absolutely ashamed of themselves but they won't be.

Absolute scum of the earth.

It's sounding like it was a white male driving his van into a group of Muslims as an anti Islam attack and should be treated as a terror attack. It makes him no better than Isis.

Imam protected the driver til police arrived.

I am full of respect for that man. He is no doubt a peace loving, decent Muslim who shows up the Daesh murderers for the evil people that they are who do not deserve to be called Muslims.

As for the terrorist who did it, he didn't deserve that kind of respect.

Oh gosh. This feels like it happens every week now. I am just round the corner from Finsbury Park and travel from there most days. It's a vibrant, multi-cultural community. There is no room for hate here.

StealthPolarBear

Jo Cox's killer was radicalised by the foul Britain First extremists...

<a class="break-all" href="http://go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=news.sky.com/story/live-driver-deliberately-headed-into-crowd-10919848" target="_blank">http://news.sky.com/story/live-driver-deliberately-headed-into-crowd-10919848

•	<a class="break-all" href="http://go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=<a class="break-all" href="http://news.sky.com/story/vehicle-collides-with-pedestrians-in-finsbury-park-10919826%22" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">news.sky.com/story/vehicle-collides-with-pedestrians-in-finsbury-park-10919826"</a> target="_blank">One man dead after van hit worshippers leaving north London mosque</a>e*
•	Eight people taken to hospital after Finsbury Park collision
•	Prime Minister says police are dealing with potential terror attack
•	Van driver allegedly said "I did my bit"
•	Man, 48, arrested after being held at scene

Again, community looks like pulling together:
Rabbi Herschel Gluck, president of Shomrim, a Jewish neighbourhood watch group, is at the police cordon to show solidarity with the community.
He told the Press Association: "We have very good community relations here."

Van driver said "I did my bit"
Toufik Kacimi, the CEO of the Muslim Welfare House, has told Sky News the van driver told the mosque's imam "I did my bit".
He said: "People grabbed him outside and started hitting him. Our imam Mohammed Mahmoud went there and saved him, saved his life basically."
He added: "The guy by that time was saying 'I did my bit'."

Mayor Sadiq Khan:
"While this appears to be an attack on a particular community, like the terrible attacks in Manchester, Westminster and London Bridge
it is also an assault on all our shared values of tolerance, freedom and respect.

"The situation is still unfolding and I urge all Londoners to remain calm and vigilant"

boopsy I thought that as well. Overnight it wasn't being described as a terror attack at all; I wonder if somebody has 'had a word' with the media and told them to get their act together as they all suddenly started mentioning terror and so on.

Yes, the word will have been from the Met Police, and the earliest statement I can find from them mentioning the involvement of counter-terrorist police was issued at 04:46

I heard a reporter on the radio say that the difference is that they have arrested someone- the attacker is still alive, and that means that they have to be much more careful in the way they report it. In the other attacks the attackers died immediately.

Have they checked the colour chart?

My dd is going to a festival there in July. I'd google mapped and seen its right by Finsbury Park mosque which is well known and respected etc. So I said yeah you're safe, long way from London London and bridges and high Muslim population, higher even than normal London. And boom. Some utter twat lowers us to the level of the fanatics ☹️
Poor innocents targeted AGAIN
Will trigger even more attacks I bet. Ahh I'm so sad for the injured again. The world is so scary

I'm very surprised it's taken this long for a 'revenge' attack to be honest. I'm not shocked at all. If I thought this country was getting scary before then I think it's absolutely fucking terrifying now - what next? all out civil war?

Just woken up to this. Bloody awful when you're sat thinking at least it's not a higher death count this time, one is far too many as it is.

I don't care what ideology they think they're supporting the people who are doing this are all the same. We need to be different.

Oh god.

How incredibly brave of the people who grabbed the attacker, not knowing what he might try next, and then of the imam to detain him alive till the police got there.

Everything you just said, RJ.

That is disgraceful, they're making it out that it's ok then

As a Muslim I cant see that at all. They are stating a fact. A white van driver attacked people outside a mosque once frequented by Abu Hamza. And if you go on to read the article they also say that much has changed since he preached there.

Disgusted at some of the media outlets headlines on this. "White van driver" "white, clean-shaven man arrested"

My friend said this this morning "If you get in a van and intentionally drive it into a group of people, you are a terrorist." I agree with her. The fucking hypocrisy is appalling.

It's all a nightmare at the moment.

I meant by isis. I'm not aware there have been any others but I could well be wrong

Yes I would have assumed he had a knife on him too. Very brave/stupid, but either way provably saved other lives.

There is obv a trend for lone losers to be radicalized by hate & incitement online.

These crimes must consistently be called the same, whether incited by the white far right or by (usually) non-white Islamofascists

Yes this is absolutely a terrorist attack.
In my head the difference is that it's more likely this fucking idiot doesn't have a wider network of other fucking idiots who helped plan this. I don't know that for sure but I think it's more likely. In which case that would make him a 'lone wolf'
Facts will become clearer as time goes by obviously.